[MD] knowledge
Matt Kundert
pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Tue May 11 18:58:29 PDT 2010
Hey Steve,
Steve said:
What we don't have is know-that intellectual knowledge
that could ever exhaust DQ. ... Know-that is always
secondary because it is knowledge about our know-how
rather than knowledge of DQ.
...
Knowledge-that increases our know-how. Pirsig of ZAMM
set out to show that classical know-that has its own
aesthetic and opens new possibilities for know-how and
then new know-thats in response to the new know-hows
in a feeback loop building up analogues upon analogues.
Intellect, like everything else, has static and dynamic
aspects. Intellect is not divorced from know-how.
...Knowledge-that is also always know-how (though only
intellectual know-how is called knowledge-that.) ...
Know-how is the dynamic aspect of knowledge and can be
thought of as being at work on all levels, but on other levels,
know-how doesn't obtain a static latch as knowledge-that.
Know-how is maintained through physical "laws," DNA, or
social habits copied from one person to the next.
Matt:
I like trying to use know-how and knowing-that to unpack
the static/Dynamic distinction, but the part that always
eludes is the ambiguity contained in the formulation
"Dynamic Quality is pre-intellectual experience"--we all
know that DQ is not being equated to inorganic/bio/social
static patterns, yet you don't have to squint much to see
it that way.
For example, I still see no need to use the
primary/secondary distinction. If you're not saying this
above, Steve, you come close to using this formula in the
third paragraph: "knowledge-that = intellectual know-how".
However, if this formula is true (which I think it is), then
there's no sense in saying that knowledge-that is not of DQ
but know-how, as you suggest above, because you also
seem to assert this formula (which I also think is true):
"know-how = connection to DQ". Combining these two
formulas has the effect of the Rortyan injunction that
"language does not take you away from reality."
Constituting the primary/secondary distinction as the
"know-how is about DQ/knowing-that is about know-how"
distinction doesn't seem to work much better than saying
experience precedes language. There are a lot of
commonsensical ways of asserting both forms of the
primary/secondary distinction, but none of them seem to
give you the extra umph to distinguish between static and
DQ, which was supposed to be what the formulations of
DQ were involved in.
The nearest Western analogue to the mysticism Pirsig
encapsulates with DQ is the kind of mysticism created by
Romanticism--beginning in France (Rousseau), spreading to
Germany (Kant), reaching its European climax in England
(Coleridge), before being transformed in America (Emerson)
and recycled back into Germany (Nietzsche). Pirsig runs
headlong into the debate about Romanticism's
anti-intellectualism in ZMM, but it slides curiously
underneath his Lila formulas. To balance the
long-established anti-intellectualism of Romanticism
(whose best philosophical critic seems to me the forgotten
Wyndham Lewis), Pirsig formulated the classic/romantic
split. But once we move to Lila, the blur created by the
DQ as pre-intellectual experience formula--cutting us off
from knowing whether we've degenerated into dogma or
instinct, or whether we've taken a step into the dimly
apprehended unknown--seems to undo the rebalancing of
ZMM.
There might be ways of receiving the formula as Pirsig's
acknowledgement of the first-person unknowableness of
which is which--ensconced in what I've before termed the
"indeterminacy of DQ thesis," which "degeneration" alludes
to--but I'm uncomfortable in asserting that Pirsig
perceived the formula that way. Are these two letters,
capitalized and placed in close spatiotemporal proximity,
just a circle around a metaphysical hole, like the infinite
regress in cameras pointing at their own live-feed monitor
or guitar pickups next to amps, creating feedback distortion?
What Rorty once called the "literary openness" of Derrida
over and against the "philosophical closure" of Platonism
seems a good way of capturing that hole. What dismays
me is not the hole, but 1) the demand from some for a
system with a hole (granting that, if you want a system,
you gotta' have a hole--my question is: why do I need a
system?) and 2) the sense some systematizers have that
Pirsig's the first to do or recognize this or has taken a giant
leap forward (granting that, I don't really think giant leaps
are possible, except when you skew your perspectibe
enough they look like it).
Though of course, those aren't really your problems, Steve.
Matt
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