[MD] e: Reading & Comprehension

[MarshaV]

Hi Bo,

What dmb took to be a bitter attack was just my frustration with not 
finding the right words.  I really do feel a need to be quiet, and a need
for a silent walk in the woods.  Maybe the words will come.  Thanks for
the support.  I do admire your big heart.


Marsha 
 
 








On May 12, 2010, at 2:56 PM, skutvik at online.no wrote:

> Marsha, Arlo.
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> 11 May.:
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> [Arlo]
>>> If all intellectual patterns are SOM, what is the "cancerous"
>>> element you speak of? Indeed, what was it that Pirsig lamented when
>>> the Sophists were run under by Plato? We certainly can't lament that
>>> intellect was infested with SOM, since intellect IS SOM. I suppose
>>> you could lament that intellect achieved dominance, but if that is a
>>> bad thing, why did Pirsig place it atop his moral hierarchy?
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> ZAMM needs some MOQ adjustment and the Sophist issue is the 
> most needy issue. Their strife with Plato was the budding intellectual 
> level's subjectivism's versus its objectivism that still haunts intellect  
> ...in its SOM capacity role!!!!!. Intellect was not infested with SOM, 
> rather the S/O value fossilizes into a S/O METAPHYSICS !!!  
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> Marsha:
>> I understand intellectual patterns to be built on the SOM premise. 
>> Some will stay valid, some will become irrelevant or, indeed, harmful.
>> Those intellectual patterns that lose their validity will fall back
>> into oblivion.  
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> Right you are Marsha, Intellect's value is the S/O distinction, which 
> went unchecked on to become a SOM which has given the West a 
> technological heaven but a metaphysical hell  ... until RMP came and 
> cut the Gordic Knot that was impossible to see - much less cut - from 
> within SOM , within intellect. It requires a  bootstrap operation to lift 
> ourselves to the Quality level, something the academics have no 
> intention of trying, they  want, the MOQ  to remain an intellectual 
> pattern and as long as that view rules it's just a complicated  SOM. 
> Arlo may be small fry here, it's DMB who is the big roadblock. 
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>>> [Marsha]
>>> "All one has to do"?  Right!  I'm not so stupid to fall for that
>>> kind of trickery.  Must you resort to such nonsense.
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>>> [Arlo]
>>> Sigh. I suppose I should just "meow" and pretend that people don't
>>> write here what they do.
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> Your statement was in the same category as "Every schoolchild knows." 
>> It's an insult, and I would prefer not to play that way.  So meow away
>> if you think that wins you intellectual points.  I will just ignore
>> you, or stop playing.   
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>>> [Marsha]
>>> If you do not like the intellectual level being an advancement over
>>> the social level, maybe you do not agree with the idea of evolution?
>>> 
>>> [Arlo]
>>> Huh? Is today "opposite day"? Did I miss that?
>> 
>> Marsha:
>> Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed you were defending the social
>> level from being called inferior to the intellectual level.  
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