[MD] Venn or Ziggurat

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Tue May 18 05:04:23 PDT 2010


Interesting Steve,

I too (really) think of it in terms of waves ... emergent patterns
upon patterns, upon patterns, but that's more than just an analogy ...
I think the analogy here was simply one of topological representation.
Just hard to draw the patterns upon patterns view, without actually
drawing an awful lot of patterns.

(It's turtles all the way down of course, so even the inorganic
patterns are more waves in a sea of ... potential ... called DQ, or
the aesthetic continuum maybe.)

The

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steven Peterson
<peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
> I sometimes think of biological patterns as waves in a sea of
> inorganic patterns and social patterns as waves in a sea of biological
> patterns and intellectual patterns as waves in a sea of social
> patterns.
>
> It's probably best not to get stuck on any one analogy.
>
>
> "Language is the liquid...that we're all dissolved in...great for
> solving problems after it creates the problems." - Modest Mouse
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Frank, I tend to think of the stack as a cone of pyramid, then you get
>> the circular (or square) Venn diagram by looking down on it.
>> Ian  in response to Franf's:
>>
>> I often hear of the "levels" as if stacked up like a ziggurat.
>> Wouldn't a Venn diagram with 4 concentric regions be truer to the concept of
>> quality built of quality built of quality built of quality?
>>
>> Andre:
>> Or the ZEN circle.
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