[MD] Venn or Ziggurat

[Frank Booth]

[Steve]
I sometimes think of biological patterns as waves in a sea of
inorganic patterns and social patterns as waves in a sea of biological
patterns and intellectual patterns as waves in a sea of social
patterns.

[Cap'n Frank]
In other words, a Venn diagram with a side of tartar sauce.

[Steve]
It's probably best not to get stuck on any one analogy.

[Frank]
You mean like Quality? Apparently not a bad stuck-ness.

Different analogies point us in different directions. ( A disembodied finger points to a phantom trash-bin. )

Venn-thinking
Ziggurat-thinking
Cone-thinking

This is not trivial.

Grab an ox femur and smash your neighbor over the head.
Steal his bananas and scamper up the nearest tree.
Live to see another day.

Grab an ivy league education and smash the shareholders over the head.
Steal their life savings and scamper up the nearest Swiss chalet.
That's living!

Intellectual patterns and biological patterns are the very same patterns.

Evolution -> freedom
freedom -> power
power -> moral choice

=>

Ziggurat thinking bad









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From: Steven Peterson <peterson.steve at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 4:43:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Venn or Ziggurat

I sometimes think of biological patterns as waves in a sea of
inorganic patterns and social patterns as waves in a sea of biological
patterns and intellectual patterns as waves in a sea of social
patterns.

It's probably best not to get stuck on any one analogy.


"Language is the liquid...that we're all dissolved in...great for
solving problems after it creates the problems." - Modest Mouse




On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank, I tend to think of the stack as a cone of pyramid, then you get
> the circular (or square) Venn diagram by looking down on it.
> Ian  in response to Franf's:
>
> I often hear of the "levels" as if stacked up like a ziggurat.
> Wouldn't a Venn diagram with 4 concentric regions be truer to the concept of
> quality built of quality built of quality built of quality?
>
> Andre:
> Or the ZEN circle.
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