[MD] Know-how - an aside

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Hi Marsha, all:

Two great individual thinkers, same conclusion::

"I wanted to change the world. But I have found that the only thing one can be 
sure of changing is oneself."-Aldous Huxley 

"The place to improve the world is first in one´s own heart and head and hands, 
and then work outward from there." -Robert Pirsig

Or, as Pirsig also wrote: 

"A tribe can change its values only person by person and someone has to be 
first."

Without the courage of individual's responding to DQ (think brujo), humanity 
would still be living in caves, suffering under the crushing repression of 
social conformity (think government control of the internet).

Platt   


On 18 May 2010 at 12:09, MarshaV wrote:


Andre,

Somewhere RMP states that the only way to change society is 
one individual at a time.  (I cannot find the quote at the moment.) 
I agree with Platt's insistence on the importance of the individual,
and often I want to agree with many statements Ham makes too, 
for the same reason, but with Ham self/individual seem to get 
confused.  I find no independent controlling self, only a flow of 
patterns.  

Platt rules!!!  
 

Marsha




On May 18, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Platt to All:
> 
> These quotes from ZAMM suggest that Quality is a strictly individual event,
> solely dependent on an individual's life experiences. It's like breathing.
> Everyone
> knows what breathing is, but each individual has a different breathing
> experience,
> especially the experience of the first and last breaths.
> 
> Individual uniqueness is a dominant theme of the MOQ, demonstrated by the
> author's attention to the differences that mark the personalities of
> Phaedrus,
> Rigel, Lila, Dusenberry, John Wooden Leg,  and other individuals whose
> understanding  of Quality varies mightily. That such disparity
> gives ammunition
> to Pirsig's critics goes without saying.
> 
> Andre:
> Yep, Platt, keep the Qualigod, mixed in with Cartesian/Lockean insights alive (they were wrong you know!) and you will be able to maintain your political views and remain 'comfortably numb'.
> 
> Not sure if you'll get this but the Lila 'personalities' represent different evolutionary levels of value.
>