[MD] BeTteR-neSs (undefined or otherwise)

ADRIE KINTZIGER parser666 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 1 12:31:53 PDT 2010


God is really only another artist. He invented the giraffe, the elephantand
the cat. He has no real style, He just goes on trying other things.
(Pablo Picasso)

2010/11/1 Ham Priday <hampday1 at verizon.net>

> Hi Horse --
>
>
>
>  Just a minor point but why would I eject you from MD?
>> As far as I'm aware you haven't been abusive, you edit your posts
>> properly, you don't inundate the forum with posts, you're generally polite
>> etc. etc.
>> Your point of view may be at odds with aspects of the MoQ
>> but then there are some on this list who say they support the MoQ
>> and then do their best to undermine it.
>> Your political persuasion is not mine but then you don't shove that
>> down everyone's throat at every possible opportunity.
>> In short, you're very welcome here and, to be honest, if certain others on
>> this forum behaved as well as you I would be a lot happier at times.
>>
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence, Horse.  It's much appreciated.
>
> There are times when I feel compelled to speak out against ideas which
> violate what I view as the most fundamental principles of reality, and
> denial of the individual self is one of them.  The rejection of man's
> spiritual quest in the cause of anti-theism is another.  We're all searching
> for answers, but bashing the beliefs of others won't get us there.  And I
> certainly have no desire to undermine the MoQ.
>
> As you may recall, I was invited to join the MD in a response from Mr.
> Pirsig to a query regarding values in the summer of 2004.  After checking
> out ZMM from our local library and reading LILA in paperback, I concluded
> that the MoQ was a comprehensive aesthetic analogy for material existence.
> Exposure to the MD quickly revealed that this worldview was to be taken
> literally.  Having developed a valuistic philosophy of my own, I began to
> realize this was impossible for me.  But by that time, I had become so
> fascinated by what the forum participants were saying that I was hooked into
> exchanging ideas with them.
>
> Pirsig is an appealing writer with a keen mind and an anthropological
> flair. Although I don't put much stock in his alleged "radical empiricism",
> I believe the Quality thesis will be his legacy to philosophy.  The major
> problem I have with the ontology is that Quality=Value must be realized, and
> Value realized by a pattern of Quality is tautological.  This is why I
> stress value-sensibility as the essence of selfness.
>
> The anticipation of "ejection" may have exaggerated my metaphysical
> differences with the author, for which I apologize.  Anyway, it was gracious
> of you to come to my defense with such a favorable report.  I don't envy the
> conflicts you mediate daily in what must be a frustrating role as the MD
> administrator.
>
> Yours respectfully,
> Ham
>
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