[MD] BeTteR-neSs (undefined or otherwise)

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Hi Dan,
Thanks for the Tao.  I have a number of different translations, each
provides some insight.  I think such a concept is appropriate to mention
here, as a tag to another path for arriving at the same.  I would also add
that any concept contains the suggestion you put forward, Dynamic Quality is
not alone or special in this sense.  Try approaching any concept at all.  We
simply divide it further an further, without approaching it.

Cheers,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Dan,
> > A question from Mark
> >
> > [Dan]
> > No. We cannot think of Dynamic Quality as a mover. Dynamic Quality
> > must be kept concept-free.
> >
> > [Mark]
> > Why is this?  What puts DQ out of the bounds of metaphysics?   By
> labeling
> > Dynamic Quality as concept free, aren't you pointing towards a concept?
>  How
> > do you get around this, by not talking about it?  Are you suggesting that
> we
> > should not discuss DQ?  If DQ is concept free, what is it besides concept
> > free?  Please explain, I thought we were discussing concepts.
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Thank you for writing. All we can discuss are concepts, which is why
> it is important to remind ourselves that when it comes to Dynamic
> Quality, we are discussing a concept that points towards that which
> cannot be conceptualized. Dynamic Quality is the beating heart of the
> MOQ. We are constantly defining it yet it is inexhaustible.
>
> Rather than gravity, I would suggest using the tao as an analogy:
>
> The Tao is like a well:
> used but never used up.
> It is like the eternal void:
> filled with infinite possibilities.
>
> It is hidden but always present.
> I don't know who gave birth to it.
> It is older than God.
>
> Dan comments:
>
> When it is said that the tao is older than God, it seems to me that it
> is saying the same as dmb when he says Dynamic Quality comes before
> our concepts of it. The tao is prior to our concept of God, prior to
> our concept of anything. It is always here but when we look for it, we
> cannot see it. It comes as a surprise, always new, always fresh.
>
> The Tao doesn't take sides;
> it gives birth to both good and evil.
> The Master doesn't take sides;
> she welcomes both saints and sinners.
>
> The Tao is like a bellows:
> it is empty yet infinitely capable.
> The more you use it, the more it produces;
> the more you talk of it, the less you understand.
>
> Hold on to the center.
>
> Dan comments:
>
> Dynamic Quality gives rise to all our concepts of good and evil. When
> we master that thought, we no longer judge a person. We come to see
> that all people are both saints and sinners at the same time. Dynamic
> Quality is what is better. It isn't there but it drives all patterns
> of value forward, back to itself. When we talk about it, we go further
> from it. By reminding ourselves that it is not this, not that, we keep
> ourselves centered.
>
> Look, and it can't be seen.
> Listen, and it can't be heard.
> Reach, and it can't be grasped.
>
> Above, it isn't bright.
> Below, it isn't dark.
> Seamless, unnamable,
> it returns to the realm of nothing.
> Form that includes all forms,
> image without an image,
> subtle, beyond all conception.
>
> Approach it and there is no beginning;
> follow it and there is no end.
> You can't know it, but you can be it,
> at ease in your own life.
> Just realize where you come from:
> this is the essence of wisdom.
>
> Dan comments:
>
> We are Dynamic Quality; all of us. What we know intellectually though
> is static quality. Try to name what you are, Mark. You cannot. But you
> can be it. We become blind the the world by taking the forms that we
> see and feel and hear to be real. Try and approach Dynamic Quality and
> we find we are drawing apart from it. Just realize from where all
> these concepts arise. We can never know it intellectually. We feel it
> in our heart.
>
> I hope this helps a bit,
>
> Dan
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