[MD] Knots

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Hi Mark,
Sorry but I missed a lot of what you say you covered. Can you  repeat your 
analogies and insights on a single page in summary form without compromising 
your thoughts?  Someone once said, "If you can't write your idea on the back of 
business card, it's not a good idea." Probably an exaggeration, but it forces 
an Occam approach, like Pirsig's summary of the MOQ -- "Some things are better 
than others." 

Any sort of brief summary would be appreciated.

Thanks
Platt    



On 2 Nov 2010 at 20:58, 118 wrote:

Interesting how in a forum inspired by the Great Robert Pirsig, there would
be closed mindedness to new methods for describing Quality.

I have tried analogies from physics, from chemistry, from biology, from
sports, from Tao, from Buddhism, from Vedic thought, from mathematics.  I
have expounded on the relationship of art to philosophy as a leading edge
coming from the subconscious which is more in tune with quality (perhaps I
should have mentioned Dewey), and divided the brain to encompass Quality's
direct pre-intellectual stimuli.  I have brought in mythology and astrology,
(perhaps a little more Campbell may help).   But to no avail.  I get the
same feedback, but perhaps I should conform, and, feeling like J. Alfred
Prufock, question:

Would it have been worth while
To have bitten off the matter with a smile
To have squeezed the universe into a ball
To roll it toward some overwhelming question,
To say: "I am Lazarus, come from the dead
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all"-
If one, settling a pillow by her head,
Should say: "That is not what I meant at all.
That is not it at all."

And I have proposed ways out of the subject object thinking, ways to
describe Quality without such, and proposed the direct connection with
Quality as being Intent, which all posses.  And professed the arrow of
quality as being real and not ineffable.  Perhaps I should use the proper
words, and accepted premises, but I question (as instructed by T.Stearns.
Eliot):

And would it have been worth it, after all,
Would it have been worth while,
After the sunsets and the dooryards and the sprinkled streets,
After the novels, after the teacups, after the skirts that trail along the
floor-
And this, and so much more?-
It is impossible to say just what I mean!
But as if a magic lantern threw the nerves in patterns on a screen
Would it have been worth while
If one, settling a pillow or throwing off a shawl,
And turning toward the window, should say:
"That is not it at all,
 That is not what I meant, at all."

No, I don't think so (ah, what Blasphemy!, how unpragmatic).  Well, now I
know how Phaedrus felt.

Cheers,
Mark
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