[MD] Is this the inadequacy of the MOQ?

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Wed Nov 3 22:48:49 PDT 2010


Hi Tim,
My opinions below.

[Tim]
> Just a side point, Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote a whole novel about this
> concept of an 'intelligent murder'.  That book is "crime and punishment'
> if anyone cares.
>

[Mark]
Yes, good book, where does such intelligence take that man?

>
>
> [Tim]
> But the questions that are used to determine it presume that there is
> some concept: TRUTH.  Truth then is teh judge of intelligence.
>

[Mark]
Truth is an analogy that arises out of Quality.  I don't think the term
judge is appropriate.

>
> [Tim]
> again, are you telling me that intellect means the ability to grasp
> reality through problems-solutions?  There is such a real thing as a
> problem, and such a real thing as a right solution?
>

[Mark]
Sure.  My point is that intelligence is not so easily defined, and problem
solving may be one aspect.  I do not regard the IQ test as having high
value.

>
> [Tim]
> Yes, as a subject/object, as a "me", there may be certain problems which
> solutions I can never know, and must rely on common sense...  But I
> guess what I am really asking: does quality itself have a hard
> definition for intelligence?  Or a hard definition for Moral, for that
> matter?  I think Phaerus's point was that, regarding the former, yes, it
> is quality, and not the intermediate subjects-and-objects, which
> supplies the definition for intelligence; and then regarding the latter:
> yes.
>

[Mark]
No hard definitions, just hard trends, which are analogies.  Intelligence
can be seen as an arising of Quality.  Or to use the vernacular of the
forum, intelligence is left in the wake of Quality.  Look up the dynamic and
static analogies of Quality.  Think in terms of holism.

>
> Cheers,
>
Mark

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