[MD] BioCentrism: Was Zeno correct?

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 5 15:14:44 PDT 2010



 
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> (Adrie)
> about the illusion and the defect
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> Mc Watt quoting Mr Pirsig commenting Parmenides and "Zeno"
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> quote (MOQ and time)-Mc Watt
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> From the standpoint of contemporary physics, the Parmendians [sic]
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> were right to claim a distinction between appearance and reality but
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> wrong in their claim where the illusion lies.  What is illusory is
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> constancy, not change.  (Di Santo & Steele, 1990, p.160)
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> Clark (1999) argues that Parmenides’ theory concerning change could
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> be an absolute truth (having the same ontological status as a
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> Platonic form): ‘If true, always true’ and, therefore, existing
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> before Parmenides discovered it.  However, there still was change in
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> Parmenides conscious mind from not having the theory (that change is
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> illusory) to having this theory.  Moreover, it appears that
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> Parmenides is conflating a description of reality (i.e. being) that
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> by definition can’t cease to exist with reality itself and is,
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> therefore, begging the question in the first place.
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> On the other hand, from the Dynamic sense of the MOQ, Parmenides is,
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> strictly speaking, correct as the concept of ‘change’ is an
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> abstraction from Dynamic Quality and, therefore, (as with anything
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> abstracted) doesn’t exist in an absolute sense.   Possibly, the
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> koan-like theories of Parmenides and "Zeno" indicate (and they may
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> have shared similar thinking to Zen masters for such verbal
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> conundrums) ""the error of assigning absolute truth to a static
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> concept when reality is fundamentally dynamic. ""
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> "", "" In the last sentence is mine.(partially), nothing else is
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> changed.
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> Pirsig is rejecting this Parmenides-Zeno koan-like occult reality.
> Marsha and Mark are trying to launch it back in.
> Backpeddling to the caves?
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> This material is based upon the case's evidence.
> ps. Mc Watt is quoting HAWKING a zillion times on his page.
> http://robertpirsig.org/MOQTime.htm   see for yourself
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> greetzz, Adrie.
 		 	   		  


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