[MD] re , Dan

ADRIE KINTZIGER parser666 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 7 08:24:06 PST 2010


Thank for the concerns Dan,and the interventions.
DMB was mentioning something in one of his earlier postings,i think it was
in regard of intellect,..
I thik it was something like," real thinkers do not fear intellect"
Well , he mailed it , i think intellect is my best friend,my best friend
ever,and
in consequence, intellectuals are my best friends, Like you, Dave, Andre,
Horse
Ron,Arlo,...others , the writers, Pirsig, Neruda, Mulisch, Huxley,..i can go
on forever.
Same line for the artists and the scientists, they are my friends,my trusted
guides, all of them, Hawking, Zurek,El Greco, Picasso,...endless list.

I do not fear intellect , Dan, i demand it, i pursue it, and if this means
that it is my role or faith to sit in someone's shadow,like DMB or you or
Andre, or Pirsig,
i will happily do so. As such , i am the observer i like to be, to grow and
adapt and adopt knowledge, intellect and wisdom, it is happily received and
honored.
I demand it. It comes in the first place.period.
Btw, thank for helping me out with what Andre was coining, it matters.


Time is always my problem , Dan, i need this family to run, as i'm the
engine.
Also i received a very big file from Germany, Bad Arolssen,regarding the
whereabouts of my aunt during WW2, and her staying hostage in the camps.

I was searching for this file for 25 years worldwide, to find it in Belgium
a week ago.
Part is in German, part is in French, part is in Flemish, both French and
German
are not my native tongue, but i can manage to translate it.

Found out that it was the
11th armored division of the 3th army liberating the camp in Mauthausen(
Austria)
where my aunt was held hostage, she also stayed in Bergen-Belsen,and
Kreutzburg(Silesia-Poland), but all this as an aside.

If it is translated, it will be a gift for her daughter and son, they are
still alive.


Thx for reading , Dan.
greetz, Adrie



2010/11/7 Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>

> Hello everyone
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dan:
> >
> > After re-reading 2.2 and 2.3 of Anthony's PhD thesis (it is a really
> > great source of information for anyone serious about the MOQ, just
> > fantastic! Anyone not familiar with it should order it today.
> > Definitely worth the price. It is available on Ant's website
> > www.robertpirsig.org) it seems to me that Ant isn't forming a
> > distinction between Quality and value so much as he is saying that
> > some values cannot be quantified in the way others can be. It appears
> > Robert Pirsig agrees when he says:
> >
> > Quality was adopted dynamically. The term itself had high Quality. I just
> > felt ‘Quality’ had quality the way the students just ‘felt’ some student
> > papers
> > were better than others. I used to give the students the advice, ‘First
> you
> > just
> > “see” what has quality, then you figure out why. Don’t reverse the
> process,
> > or
> > you will get all confused.’ It is important to restate this now to avoid
> the
> > perennial literary critics’ trap of thinking that the pivotal term
> > quality is the
> > result of some rational, analyzable process. (Pirsig, 1995b)
> >
> > Dan comments:
> >
> > I think this is what RMP means when he said that to teach writing,
> > first teach pure quality. Let the student discover for themselves
> > where quality is and then figure out why. If we try to figure out why
> > first, confusion arises.
> >
> >
> >Adrie:
> > ---Incredibly important, i have to study this remarks and lead's, and
> also
> > Andre's
> > questions, and your reflections , Dan,..
> > There are no other options i guess,..after all , the man is teaching
> > quality, and it is recognised.--
> > greetzz, Adrie
> > Thanks for the appearance, ...not easy after beiing brutalised away by
> Mark.
> > I will study this lines, Andre is moving up to the top of the pyramid.
> > "attention"
>
> Hi Adrie
>
> Thank you for the reply. Yes, there are so many little gems of
> knowledge scattered about concerning the MOQ, for those willing to
> make the effort at picking them up. I don't think Mark realizes it,
> but it's his loss. I don't care about the insults... I've been
> insulted by the best... it is not going to scare me away. It's all
> about the learning, and I learn something new every day. I think we're
> alike in that regard.
>
> You take care, my friend.
>
> Dan
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