[MD] Betternes - 4 levels of!

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

Hi David,only meant as an aside, in reflection of these last sentence,eating
the menu,.....

Eating the cutlery, the dishes,the paintings on the wall,the decoration all
around,
about all exept for the work that is presented,the work that needs to be
done,
the progress that needs to be made,the mechanisms that are awaiting to
be unveiled,......

They are only willing to climb the mountain if an when you are prepared to
make
promesses in advance, that you will allow them to freely shit on the slopes
during the journey to the summit, and when arrived there the bible will hit
the summit first.
So there is no place at the summit for Quality, or the books , or the
philosophers.

So , in the mean time, eating the cutlery, etc ,....and we are off again, in
the madman's recital.
The static pattern of recurrence as a substituated erzatz-quality.


Greetzz, Adrie(10 kb)


2010/11/11 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>

>
> Mark said to dmb:
> ...And the quote you provided supports my contention.  Yes, static
> representations destroy Theism.  I have stated this before.  The paragraph
> is towards religion, I have said that as well.  The cat and dog metaphor is
> exactly what is going on here, and this is supposed to be philosophy not
> priesthood.  Are you disturbed by my presence here, unpredictable and
> uncontrollable?  Are you a bishop of some kind?  You are subscribing to
> static interpretations of MOQ, not me.  I wonder why you used that quote.
>
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> And I wonder why you always delete that quote from your responses to it. If
> you're disputing it and asking questions about it, why remove it? Are we
> trying to determine what Pirsig thinks or not? So why do Pirsig's comments
> disappear from your posts? That is no way to conduct an open and honest
> conversation about the MOQ. This is not dogmatism. It's just common sense
> and good manners.
>
> And no, static representations do not DESTROY religion. Religion IS a
> static representation. Rituals are nothing if not static. Institutions are
> nothing if they're not static. How can there be any kind of ism without
> static patterns? The philosophical picture known as the MOQ can't exist
> except as a set of static patterns. That's what metaphysics must be or there
> isn't any metaphysics. But the term "Dynamic Quality" refers to experience
> itself, not a thing or an idea or a set of gestures or symbols that refer to
> it. I think what happens is that the mystic, because he knows this
> experience directly, sees THROUGH the rituals and symbols and metaphors. The
> static patterns of religion become transparent like glass and, as everyone
> know, window are for looking through and not for looking at. Instead of
> seeing the light that comes through the window, theists worship the glass.
> It's like trying to drink the faucet instead of the water. It's like eating
> the menu.
>
>
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