[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

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Hi Arlo,

I'm sure that most that are on this post simply use it to progress their own
understanding of MOQ.  As such it may not be a waste of time.  Certainly it
should not be the only interaction with Quality.  I am sure that some who
are on this forum are working on their own essays which are posted
elsewhere, at least I hope so.  I have seen such essays from former members.
 The MOQ discuss is just a mixing pot for ideas.  If one chooses to interact
I don't think it is a waste of time, otherwise they would not choose to do
so.

My interaction with Quality began in the '70s.  By the time Lila was
written, I had reached a different place.  Trying to harmonize that with
what is being taught in this forum is what I am currently working on.

You speak of a path.  Are there signposts to this path that could be
presented in this forum, I do not see a path.  A subject which contains
"this is where we are and this is where we want to be" would be most useful.
 There may be some that are up to that challenge.

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:

> [DMB quotes Pirsig]
> "I'm very pleased to know that Dr. Anthony McWatt and David Buchanan will
> be speaking at Oxford. They are the two foremost philosophers today on the
> Metaphysics of Quality and its implications for the guidance of humanity.
> General public understanding of this metaphysical system is still in its
> infancy and they deserve the careful, open-minded attention that early
> proponents of any idea need." (Robert Pirsig, October 2009)
>
> [Arlo]
> Its good to hear that as recently as last year Pirsig was supporting your
> work and giving you the credit you deserve for your efforts. Largely, I'm
> sorry a lot of your effort and time is wasted here.
>
> I continue to think a large part of the problem is that people do not want
> disagree with Pirsig, they want to twist Pirsig into agreeing with them. I
> suspect it has a lot to with the need for validation, and I suspect that a
> large part of the animosity you face is simply jealousy. One thing I
> constantly tell students I work is to never be afraid to disagree, but
> ensure your disagreement stands of solid reasoning. And the only way to form
> this foundation is by actually understanding what the author meant in the
> first place. In other words, to form disagreement with Pirsig one should be
> clear about what Pirsig has said. And I think its the efforts of you, Ant,
> Horse and Dan that continues to keep (or tries to keep) that on path (and
> David Granger, of course, whose book I recommend to anyone with a serious
> interest in Pirsig's philosophy).
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