[MD] There is a name for what's wrong with you!

[Ian Glendinning]

Mark,

Beneath .... ??? Suppress Pirsig as autistic .... ??? What are you on ?

People like Wittgenstein and Pirsig are out the other side. They see
autism (logical-positive scientism) for what it is and transcend it,
they are not in any sense "sufferers", they are enlightened

(Those unfortunate children and adults who are sufferers, are not
"beneath" any considerations, just a different subject.)

Ian

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:23 AM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> Yes, exhibiting autism.  I have no need to defend such people, they
> represent the future.  If you feel they are beneath you, look again, you
> most powerful human.  I do have a personal relationship with autism, but it
> is more like a teacher than anything else.  If you wish to suppress Pirsig
> as autistic you have every right to do so, others on this forum seem to want
> to defend him.  But, you have a right to your opinion, be it as it may.  If
> you think that Pirsig is working with machines, take another read.  Just a
> suggestion.
>
> I didn't know that you knew Witgenstein by the way.  But since you did, I
> will take your comment as something meaningful.
>
> Glad to meet you.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> (And Mark is an example ... in defence of people clinically diagnosed
>> with Autism .... is exhibiting autism)
>>
>> It is an excellent piece on Wittgenstein.
>>
>> I can't believe after all the references of working as a car mechanic,
>> in order to work with machines rather than minds, and even the quip
>> "Wiitgenstein and the Art of Car Maintenance" he fails to get in any
>> reference to Pirsig other than that allusion.
>>
>> Excellent
>> Ian
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Ian Glendinning
>> <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Absolutely,
>> >
>> > I've used the adjective autistic to refer to those who expect
>> > "rational" (as in GOF rational, scientistic) argument to lead to
>> > clearer answers, many times before ...
>> >
>> > I always get criticized when I do, by those defending socially
>> > challenged children, who miss the point.
>> >
>> > Interesting piece.
>> > Ian
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Steven Peterson
>> > <peterson.steve at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> At least some of what's wrong with us may be captured by the lable
>> >> "amateur philosopher." Apparently, another good term for it is
>> >> "autism":
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/beyond-understanding/?src=me&ref=general
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