[MD] Ah-ha Qua Ah-ha

[Ian Glendinning]

First there was Plato's Cave,
Now we bring you .... Kundert's Alcove.

Seriously though Matt, I will read and contemplate a response. Interesting.
Ian

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Matt Kundert
<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matt said:
> You wish to isolate the "ah-ha moment" _as_ ah-ha moment
> (ah-ha qua ah-ha, as it were).
>
> Marsha said:
> It will be a false isolation, but yes, I am addressing what I see as an
> experience of realization. (Btw, that isolating to theorize is an
> example of reification and typical of intellectualizing, imho.)
>
> Matt:
> ...

>
> And if this is the case, it is a monologue in an alcove with the door shut.
> The alcove is there, without a doubt, but the dinner conversation can
> only happen out here.  And since this metaphorical alcove is actually
> inside of our minds, we should think twice before telling each other,
> _asserting_ to each other, that we should get more experience in the
> alcove, because if these descriptions are right, then the alcove is a daily
> experience for all of us, the leaving of which happens every time we
> open our mouths.  And what is actually being discussed are more
> relatable things, like meditation, instead of the unrelatable thing that
> was thought to have been discussed, but never actually is.
>
> Matt
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