[MD] a-theism and atheism

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Hi dmb,
I have no problem with theism, I do not like religion.  I have no problem
with you believing in Quality, I do have a problem with you trying to define
it and saying it has to be that way. I think Campbell had it right, I don't
think you do yet, (or Pirsig either for that matter)

Nobody should be a leader, nobody should be a follower.

Clear?

How can MOQ be the servant of theism?  That statement does not even make
sense.  Are you saying that somebody believing theistically shouldn't make
MOQ subordinate in his head?  How would you stop that?  If you try to
enforce that, you are making MOQ into a religion.  Not a good idea, it
sounds evil to me.  These beliefs do not contradict each other.

Regards,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:19 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

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> dmb says:
>
> I agree with Dan.
> There are several legitimate reasons to be concerned about the particular
> forms of theism in our present culture, especially the political culture.
> The Pope's recent "softening" of the Church's position on the use of
> condoms, for example. In the age of HIV, this translates into many deaths.
> There were several U.S. Senate candidates who held very extreme positions on
> abortions - based on their religious convictions. The efforts to teach
> creationism is a bit disturbing too.
>
> [SNIP]
>
> But Pirsig's comment in the annotations is about the MOQ being
> "anti-theistic" in much more specific way. In that case, his complaint is
> about the way philosophy is being used to prop up theism. It's wrong to make
> philosophy into the servant of religion. Because religion is social quality
> and philosophy is intellectual quality, he sees such service as an evil act.
> This same basic moral relationship holds in general. According the MOQ, a
> society guided by intellectual quality is absolutely superior to one that is
> not so guided.
>
> This particular comment is relevant to our own conduct here, no? Wouldn't
> it be equally evil to make the MOQ the servant of theism? I think so.
>
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