[MD] Rorty and Mysticism

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Hi Matt,

Be careful, according to dmb you are not following the rules he has set.  It
is impossible to debate such a thing since he keeps changing the rules to
suit.  The baggage is dmb's in my opinion.  I know that when I take sides
even those that I support do not like it for some reason.  I guess that is
why I am called a WOLF.

Mark


> Matt said:
> ... The residual difficulty with the rhetoric of radical empiricism is
> this: if one has already rejected the goal of transcendence (in its Platonic
> guise), then it is unclear to what purpose the idea of "purity" plays in any
> remaining distinctions between reality or experience, on the one side, and
> language, on the other.  Experience as something pure that language muddies
> is not something I can make sense of in non-Platonically transcendent ways.
> Experience as "immediate" whereas language is "mediating" is not something I
> can think of many uses for for nonrepresentationalists either.
>
>
> dmb says:
> Well, I don't know why you're hanging all this Platonic baggage on radical
> empiricism. It hopelessly complicates any exchange of ideas on the topic and
> yet it becomes unclear to you without that baggage. I honestly don't know
> why you persist in this year after year. I don't understand how you can
> still read this stuff as any kind of essentialism or representationalism or
> how you can try to understand Pirsig's mysticism in terms of what the Pope
> thinks. Honestly, it seems like you don't understand this stuff on purpose.
> I suppose that has something to do with protecting Rorty but I don't know.
> You're obviously a smart guy, but when it comes to this particular topic
> you're just completely incorrigible.
>
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