[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[MarshaV]

On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:55 AM, John Carl wrote:

> Well Marsha and Mark,
> 
> In the snipped interview of B. Allen Wallace, he says,  in disparaging the
> idea of emptiness as being an object of creed or belief, that it'd be as
> ridiculous to say that one believes in wood.  "that's great.  You believe in
> wood.  Now the question is, can you build anything of it?"
> 
> If you make Emptiness your creed, you're a Nihilist.  He also disparages
> that common mistake.
> 
> The way he uses "emptiness" is in his explanation of SOM.
> 
> "When we think about a subject, in itself or an object, in itself, we're
> talking about nothing at all - a null set."
> 
> I agree completely.
> 
> He's a good speaker, and I enjoyed the clip.  Thanks for posting, although I
> think he completely negates the idea that Emptiness=Quality.
> 
> Quality is a positive goal.
> 
> John


Hi John & Mark,

There have been many centuries of explaining Emptiness, and so far most 
here cling to Quality being indivisible, undefinable and unknowable, but still I 
understand them to be the same: not this, not that.  Not a creed, more a frame 
of reference.  No _independently existing_ self or objects.  Ever-changing, 
interdependent, impermanent static patterns of value is a good way of 
understanding phenomenon.  imho.  

Can (q)uality as a goal be attained by paying attention?  I think so.  And 
paying attention can be attained when you understand Quality.  


Marsha 




 
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