[MD] Bye-bye Net Neutrality!

[118]

And... it's pretty weird using gmail from google.  It scans my posts and
then suggests things that I should buy based on words in those posts.  Been
getting a lot of quantum products suggested lately...

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:48 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
>
> Yes, I have been following your posts.  It takes a lot of metaphors for me
> to understand how another thinks.  Yes, I know myself, but certainly not
> with my brain.
>
> Interesting subject on Science Friday today.  Called Tracking Truthy Ideas.
>  I guess there is now a group which tracks truth on the internet in order to
> understand the spread of artificially created memes.  Hmmm... Truth
> tracking.  Doesn't sound much like net neutrality to me.  Sound more like
> big brother.  Of course the emphasis was political, what do you expect.  I
> wish Wikipedia would be tracked for truth, it seems a bit biased in many
> subjects.  But I guess you get what you pay for...
>
> http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201010085
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:05 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, 118 wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Marsha,
>> >
>> > Oh, I've taken notice.  I love the internet.  I still do not know the
>> way
>> > things really are, however.
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> As I see my statement reflected back at me it seems too arrogant,
>> and I wonder if I can make it seem less so.
>>
>> My habit of thought, which unattended seems to happen faster
>> than the speed of light, is a tendency to reify self and phenomena.
>> To 'know how things really are' is to know self and phenomena are
>> not independent self and objects, but a flow of ever-changing,
>> interdependent, impermanent, static patterns of value.
>>
>> Maybe that is a little easier to consider?  My short-hand is
>> 'not this, not that.'
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >> It was just a suggestion to take notice.  One need do the proper
>> >> investigation and deciding on its importance for oneself.  It may
>> >> become just one more media used for mind control.  Something
>> >> to think about, maybe not.  I unplugged from network and cable TV,
>> >> and my use of the computer is here, and some research when a
>> >> question or topic calls for it.
>> >>
>> >> Freedom is knowing the way things really are and not to get too
>> >> attached to the way they appear.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Marsha
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:05 PM, 118 wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Marsha,
>> >>> Net neutrality?, and interesting concept, let's explore.
>> >>>
>> >>> Doesn't sound like you are being neutral about it, sounds like you are
>> >>> taking sides.
>> >>>
>> >>> The US postal service is supposed to be neutral, I am having a hard
>> time
>> >>> with my mail delivery recently.  Where does the internet
>> infrastructure
>> >> come
>> >>> from?  It is a God given right, does it grow on trees?  People make
>> >> things
>> >>> grow, people are not neutral.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is the FCC neutral?  Doesn't seem so to me.  To extend the analogy, is
>> >> the
>> >>> EPA neutral?  What about political neutrality, perhaps that is where
>> we
>> >>> should start.
>> >>>
>> >>> One must live in this system with its imperfections.  I am your side
>> in
>> >>> terms of freedom of access, but as Ian said nothing is free.  It is
>> the
>> >>> subversive control in the name of freedom that I find annoying.
>> >>>
>> >>> Just my opinion,
>> >>> Mark
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:18 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Already gone....
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Nothing is "free" Marsha.
>> >>>>> Second link in this post is relevant (article from The Atlantic)
>> >>>>> http://www.psybertron.org/?p=3478
>> >>>>> Ian
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:56 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What is this about?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> When we log onto the Internet, we take a lot for granted. We assume
>> >>>> we'll be able to access any Web site we want, whenever we want, at
>> the
>> >>>> fastest speed, whether it's a corporate or mom-and-pop site. We
>> assume
>> >> that
>> >>>> we can use any service we like -- watching online video, listening to
>> >>>> podcasts, sending instant messages -- anytime we choose. What makes
>> all
>> >>>> these assumptions possible is Net Neutrality.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What is Net Neutrality?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality is the guiding principle that preserves the free and
>> >> open
>> >>>> Internet.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may not
>> >>>> discriminate between different kinds of content and applications
>> online.
>> >> It
>> >>>> guarantees a level playing field for all Web sites and Internet
>> >>>> technologies.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Net Neutrality is the reason the Internet has driven economic
>> >>>> innovation, democratic participation and free speech online. It
>> protects
>> >> the
>> >>>> consumer's right to use any equipment, content, application or
>> service
>> >>>> without interference from the network provider. With Net Neutrality,
>> the
>> >>>> network's only job is to move data -- not to choose which data to
>> >> privilege
>> >>>> with higher quality service.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> http://www.savetheinternet.com/frequently-asked-questions?gclid=COeFqfqAwaQCFdJL5Qodtxj-iw
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>>
>>
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