[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[MarshaV]

Marsha:
I have never argued that to study the MoQ through Radical 
Empiricism and American Pragmatism is not possible.  I prefer 
getting at the MoQ through Buddhism which uses a radical 
form of empiricism and extremely pragmatic.  Nowhere does 
RMP state that to understand the MoQ that understanding must 
be arrived at only through radical empiricism and pragmatism 
and the words of W. James. 






On Oct 9, 2010, at 3:47 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> John to Andre:
> 
> Pray tell, Andre, how much  does your creative misspelling reveal about YOUR
> agenda,...
> 
> Andre:
> I'd like to get 'inside the head' of Mr. Pirsig, a bit like a biographer tries to get 'inside'
> his/her subject, so when I try to get into the MOQ and find that I not understand certain parts
> I try to find out what it is about me that stops/prevents me from understanding.
> I do not place the responsibility for this at the author's feet, nor do I bend meanings or dismiss
> sections to make them fit my (preconceived)ideas.
> 
> John:
> Radical Empiricism, I'm a bit hazy on.  You should ask that question of
> those interested in that framework.  I'm not enough of a philosopher to
> understand Rad. Emp. and it's relation to Existentialism, to be able to give
> the trumpet that certain sound.  You should probably ask dmb about RE.
> That's more his bag, eh?
> 
> Andre:
> I appreciate your frankness but am a bit confused about what you say in the above. The MOQ is
> arrived at through radical empiricism. Without an understanding of this it would seem, to me,
> extremely difficult to get a grasp on the MOQ, and for that matter, those concepts named 'truth'
> (a high quality intellectual pattern) and 'emptiness' or 'nothingness' ('There is nothing in the
> sense of no 'thing', that is, 'no object', and the Buddhists use nothingness in this way, but the
> term Dynamic is more in keeping within the quotation, 'Within nothingness there is a great working'
> from the Zen master,Katagiri Roshi') Anthony's PhD, p 35.
> 
> Hence my confusion re Marsha's insistence that all is unpatterned...bla bla...whilst maintaining that
> the intellectual level is SOM.
> 
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