[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

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Hi Mary,

I would suggest to you that it is quite possible to experience without
subject or objects.  You do it most of the day.  Experience does not need to
entail subject and object, how else would Quality enter into it?  Now, I
assume by unpatterned you mean lack of pattern.  Perhaps you have a
different meaning.  If so, I stand corrected.

Thanks,
Mark

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Mary <marysonthego at gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:26 PM, 118 wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Marsha,
> > >
> > > I hate to step into this again, but...
> > >
> > > I see a lot of twisting of words that contain no real meaning.  A
> > pattern
> > > forms repeating motifs, what does an unpattern do?  Is it like white
> > noise?
> > > Are you talking about chaos theory (which can be patterned).  Or are
> > you
> > > talking about being spaced out on the way to work.  If you have time,
> > give
> > > me an example of an unpattern.
>
> It's not possible to give an example of an unpattern.  That's kind of the
> point.  You see, SOM is all about patterns.  Explaining patterns, examining
> patterns, comparing and contrasting patterns.  By definition, SOM can't
> address an 'unpattern'.  The reason we have so much trouble communicating
> the essence of 'unpatterns' to SOMists is precisely because they cannot be
> addressed in the realm of patterns.  The first cut at Dynamic Quality is
> experience.  In the instant we've 'experienced', it becomes one of 2 things
> in the second cut - a subject or an object.  That's unfortunate, because
> once we've sliced things up as subjects and objects, we can no longer talk
> about Quality, or Values, or Morals.  We're hard-wired that way.  Not our
> fault, just our disability.
>
> Best,
> Mary
>
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