[MD] Emptiness & Quantum Mechancics

[MarshaV]

On Oct 11, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Mary said:
> 
> It's not possible to give an example of an unpattern.  That's kind of the
> point.  You see, SOM is all about patterns.  Explaining patterns, examining
> patterns, comparing and contrasting patterns.  By definition, SOM can't
> address an 'unpattern'.  The reason we have so much trouble communicating
> the essence of 'unpatterns' to SOMists is precisely because they cannot be
> addressed in the realm of patterns.  The first cut at Dynamic Quality is
> experience.  In the instant we've 'experienced', it becomes one of 2 things
> in the second cut - a subject or an object.  That's unfortunate, because
> once we've sliced things up as subjects and objects, we can no longer talk
> about Quality, or Values, or Morals.  We're hard-wired that way.  Not our
> fault, just our disability.
> 
> Marsha said:
> I think within the MoQ, the fourth level, the Intellectual Level, is comprised of
> intellectual static patterns of value. The way that these patterns function is
> as reified concepts and the rules for their rational analysis and manipulation.
> Reification decontextualizes.  Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object
> conceptual framework creating false boundaries that give the illusion of
> independence as a ?thing? or an ?object of analysis.?  The fourth level is a
> formalized subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for
> rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity.
> 
> Andre:
> Now it is my turn to laugh...if only it wasn't so sad. That after all these years you two
> are still hopelessly confused about the MOQ and display absolutely no understanding of what
> Pirsig has accomplished. To be so lost at the 'first slice' level... . A shame really.


Marsha:
Laughing harder still that you think you are to be considered a MoQ authority!!!   



 
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