[MD] What's Emptiness?

ADRIE KINTZIGER parser666 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 14 06:52:40 PDT 2010


Are you trying to bore me to death?, with this baloneyness?

2010/10/14 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>

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> Just for the record, that would be dependent on multiple causes and
> conditions, one of which is consciousness.
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> That's all folk!
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> On Oct 14, 2010, at 8:28 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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> > In that quote from Ant's MoQ Textbook it that: "‘Static quality’ refers
> to anything that can be conceptualised".  Looks like static patterns of
> value must at the very least be dependent on consciousness too.  Static
> patterns of value must also be empty of independent, or inherent existence.
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> >> Don't you think, at the very least, dependent on consciousness?
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> >>> Oh right, Emptiness...
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> >>> "For Tsong-kha-pa, the compatibility of emptiness and dependent arising
> is the very heart of the Madhyamaka view and the key to the path.  Dependent
> arising means that things come into being in dependence upon causes and
> conditions.  Understanding dependent arising correctly refutes the idea that
> things exist in of themselves---because they must depend on other things.
>  In the same moment, it also refutes the nihilist extreme---because it show
> that things do arise, they do come into existence, and they affect one
> another.  Thus, Tsong-kha-pa advises that if you think that you may have
> found the profound view of emptiness, you should check to see if you have
> negated too much.  Can this "emptiness" you have discovered be reconciled
> with the mere existence of things that arise interdependently? If not, then
> you are certainly mistaken."
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