[MD] critique of Randian Epistemology for my birthday

[John Carl]

Ok Mark, I don't pay much attention to my google ads, but when I read your
response I smiled and glanced up and it said, "CSX A tough act to follow"  I
have no idea what that means except cowgirls on the beach are exactly that.


Which is kinda interesting because in a roundabout way, I was working on
something along those lines last night.  I'll keep you posted.


John

PS:  I clicked on the link and it was a hot stock tip on the fool.com, there
ya go.  The very definition of useful.  Except to me of course.


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:09 PM, 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK John, I think it's your fault this time.  I got adds for the Holocaust
> Tour through some www site on the side of my gmail account, when I opened
> your post.  Please stop using so many commercial producing words.  Your
> post
> is obviously full of propaganda judging from all the adds I got with it.  I
> get the add for Ayn Rand Egoism, but I'm still trying to figure out why
> google is trying to sell me a Decision Making Tree, must have something to
> do with Quality...  So,  Godoogle is trying to lead me down some corrupt
> path and the temptation is hard to fight sometimes.  Stick to discussing
> beaches or cowgirls, so that I get some useful adds.  :-)
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From the afterward of Scott Ryan's Objectivism and the Corruption of
> > Rationality; a Critique of Ayn Rand's Epistemology:
> >
> >
> >
> > We have examined some of these features in this volume and confirmed many
> > of
> > my friend's opinions.  My own view is that Rand added nothing whatsoever
> of
> > importance to the philosophical foundations of classical liberalism,
> indeed
> > what she did add is not only philosophically negligible but also
> positively
> > dangerous.  To paraphrase a remark attributed to Oscar Wilde in another
> > context: what is good in Objectivism is not original and what is original
> > is
> > not good.
> >
> >
> > The philosophy of liberty and the economic theory of capitalism can best
> be
> > studied from other sources, and the psychological hazards of cleaving to
> > Rand's principles seem to me to outweigh by far any possible benefits
> > therefrom.  The responsibility for those hazards, rest with Rand herself.
> > They are merely the expression, in psuedophilosophical form, of her own
> > psychological tendencies and character traits.  her account of "reason"
> is
> > not only flawed, but culpably flawed; she should have known better, she
> had
> > access to the works of philosophers who did know better, and she
> > deliberately offered a philosophy of reason that was expressly intended
> to
> > undermine and discredit the foundations not only of theology but any
> > philosophical outlook that bore any remote threat of entailing theism.
> >
> >
> > In the process she undermined and discredited the foundations--and the
> > exercise-- of reason itself.  I can hardly think that classical
> liberalism
> > is any stronger for her influence.  Those who think otherwise should at
> > least be warned of the hazards of her philosophy, and I hope this
> critique
> > has in some manner helped to provide such a warning.
> >
> >
> > How he describes himself:
> >
> >
> > I am a theologically liberal pantheist, in same philsophical camp as
> > Spinoza, Royce and Timothy L.S. Sprigge and spiritually at home among
> > Emerson, Thoreau and Whitman; I share Blanshard's essential views of
> > reason;
> > and among traditional religions my primary loyalties lie with Judaism.
>  But
> > for the purposes of the present study we shall not attempt to adjudicate
> > among these traditions but shall instead focus on what I take to be the
> > view
> > roughly common to them all. Paraphrasing Blanshard, at the end of The
> > Nature
> > of Thought, it is the view that a single intelligible order is in the
> > process of construction or reconstruction in and through all individual
> > knowing minds, and itself constitutes the common order in which all such
> > minds participate.
> >
> >
> > How i feel about him:  Good enough to add him to my amazonian bday
> > collection, right after BA Wallace and just ahead of J Royce's Problem of
> > Christianity.  Yummm...
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