[MD] Step One

Fri Oct 15 14:51:31 PDT 2010

Hi Dave,
But this is fucking "zen" of you Dave.

i'm aware of the lightcircle experiment, was done for the first time by John
Hedgecoe , a famous English fotographer.
Hm, the Holographic analogy, strange you mention it in a nerd-context ,
strange , because the pioneers work from one of your ancestors in relation
to pumped lasers, was leading to the holographic development.
I investigated your relative, and indeed, the work he was doeiing was very
performant and boundary stretching.

The pumped lasers were my field homebase for many years. The interference
patterns delivered by the pumped lasers
in an opposite towards eachother pointed gunbarrel setup, created the
holographic possibilities.
I can build a ruby or an argonlaser or an yag-laser on my own merits , but
they originate, Mainmann, Einstein, your ancestor.
Einstein was the cointosser for Maser/laser, he pointed out towards the
possibility.

Pumped lasers can make a workaround for the measurementproblem,so a nobel
for this work was well earned.

Quote DMB

This metaphor breaks down at a certain "point" because that sparkler or
point of light is not solid thing or entity either.

Well , not in physiks, light is a solid thing, moving ,but generating a
force, a light on a surface is generating a pressurediffernce
in opposite to shadow, lesser light , it can be measured , "it" is present ,
light has a weight and a force.It is there.
This is commonly knowledge in science.

Light cannot dissapear once it is generated, the entropycal nature of the
universe does not allow it , it can only degrade to heat, warmth, or other
radiation, energy can never dissapear again.

So , strictly spoken, if you are an independant observer on a planet removed
exactly 58 lightyears away from here
you will be able to witness the lightflash of "Ivy" the first nuclear
hydrogen bombexperiment of the Us, done on Eniwetok-atol
in 1952.
This is the time light took for itself to travel at lightspeed, 300.000
km/sec , to reach the observer planet.
The light is still there, still travelling, and it will appear to be new for
the independant observer, i will deliver force, and look as a new
expierience, a moment in the present, 58 years old,....
The relative position of the observer.Strange? no.

The jewels.

Yes , they are like the waves.

There is no wave dependant or independant from the previous, all waves are
dependant and independant at the same moment in time.
This goes for sound waves, light waves, pressure waves, temperaturewave's ,
all waves show the same caracter, all waves
are responding to the uncertainty-principle.
Is a wave a representation of all other wave's? no and yes at the same
time,(Heisenberg), there is  no way around this.
No way, not since Einstein or Heisenberg.
The old man's last question was about the wave caracter of matter.
As in matter is energy and energy is matter, only the appearances are
different(entopical principle)
E= Mc 2, so it appears to be so that also matter is owning the
waveformcaracter.
(*as an aside, this is why i said earlier that quality comes in waves)

(E )covers all energy, all light , all movement , from a droplet of water to
an ocean's wave, the movement of planets
the movement of us, all movement , every last bit of it.Every universe.
M2 is mass square, it covers all mass, every rock, every grain of sand,
within or without the common universe, every leaf, every
weight , every tree. So ,E and  Mc 2 covers the entire universe in one
formula and  nothing is excluded.

So the function existence of Wiliam James, the proces is true and valid ,
energy is mass, mass is energy,light is darkness, and darkness is light,
conciounsness is in-coinciousness, rationality is irrationality, a proces is
a non-proces at the same time.
Rationality cannot exist without irrationality, etc, expandable without
limitation.

The squirrels.

I'v had a peach tree for several years, a native one from Turkey, collected
myself in Selcuk, as a little plant, Selcuk, the cave of seven sleepers,
Hadrianus his library, the main street to Ephesos, The statue of arete.

We take a little tin can, divide the peaches in two , and fill the can with
peaches , then add porto of 42 years old, then boil it on the
BBQ, let the peaches take the porto, allow the alcohol to boil in, the
result is superb, a native peach tree from Selcuk, Porto of 42 years old,
boil it in, and eat the peaches, ........this is so very "zen' of me,
fucking zen, "Zen" with a capital peach letter.

110 dollar for this bottle porto is not too much, the peaches are heavenly.
I also have a little vineyard. But that's another story.

loved the squirrel analogy , Dave, thanks

2010/10/15 david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>

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>
> Dan said to Ron:
> I don't know for sure, but I would say that the selfless existence doesn't
> mean denying the self so much as it means realizing the self doesn't exist
> in light of the Buddha's teachings.
>
> dmb says:
> William James says that consciousness is not a thing or an entity but
> exists as a function, as a process. Alan Watts uses the image of a point of
> light moving in a circular motion, like a sparkler on the fourth of july. In
> the darkness, a steady motion can make that point look like a full circle.
> To mistake the self as a thing or entity is like taking that point for a
> circle. This metaphor breaks down at a certain "point" because that sparkler
> or point of light is not solid thing or entity either.
>
> And when you start to think of all the things that make consciousness
> possible - words, tongues, brains, sounds, gravity, food, mothers,
> evolution, etc, etc, etc forever - the notion that it is some one particular
> "thing" starts to seem pretty absurd. You know, this is what the net of
> jewels image means. Each jewel reflects all the other jewels and is what it
> is only in relation to all other jewels. Some people (nerds) prefer the
> holographic analogy. I mean, the idea of co-dependent arising applies to the
> self just as much as any other "thing".
>
>
> Inspired by the recent discussion concerning quality in writing, I wrote a
> poem. It's a meditation on my back yard and it came to me as I had a
> cigarette there just now. If it had a title it would be something like: "NOT
> very fucking Zen of you, Dave!"
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> a peach tree grows
> squirrels skitter
> a garden hose
> becomes a weapon
> against hungry little thieves
>
>
> P.S. The peaches were awesome. We had a peach-picking dinner party for some
> friends. I did not invite the squirrels.
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