[MD] Equations for Quality

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Hi Ham,

Thanks for that, and yes, knowledge may be a problem but hasn't stopped me
yet from making a fool out of myself.  If Horse requests a cease and desist
I will of course willingly comply.  Some high grounds are not meant to be
traveled, they are too misleading.

Kind of low on the inspiration now.  Perhaps being too self critical.

More on the math as I read and understand further.

Cheers,
Mark

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Ham Priday <hampday1 at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Hi Mark [Exacto mentioned]--
>
> [Previously]:
>
>> My formula is simply relying on what I have read in this forum.
>> Yes, there can be a fundamental disagreement on the premise.
>> This would of course immediately make such an approach
>> meaningless.  If we do not agree on the assumptions then we go
>> nowhere.  The words that you use to describe Ultimate Reality
>> within your system of thought also breaks it up into components.
>> The purpose of the components is to provide further understanding.
>> It is saying that the concept of Ultimate Reality can also be
>> described as such and such.  Such descriptive sentences are
>> equations in themselves.  The formula that I provide is simply
>> a theory.  By subjecting the theory to mathematical analysis,
>> we can prove or disprove it.  If nothing else, it leads to other ideas.
>>
>
> Your persistence and enthusiasm have won me over, Mark.  I'm still
> convinced that our knowledge of reality can't be extended by mixing science
> with religion (or philosophy), and I'm not sure how Horse will react to this
> novel analysis of the MoQ.  However, inasmuch as you are willing to apply
> symbolic logic in the attempt, I'll humor your efforts and do my best to
> filter out any false conclusions as I see them.  (I recall having a similar
> exchange with Ron [Xacto] a couple of years ago.  It went nowhere; but since
> Ron probably has more familiarity with logical equations than either of us,
> I'd feel more comfortable if he were the principal "logician" for this
> project.)
>
>  The intent was to segregate the subject to allow those who found
>> the notion to be somewhat sacrilegious to skip the subject.  As I
>> stated then, this is just an off-road adventure.  What I had suggested
>> was that in order to understand my inspiration for the subject you
>> read (or reread) the essay by Dobson:  The Equations of Maya:
>>
>> http://quanta-gaia.org/dobson/EquationsOfMaya.html
>>
>> Coupling the knowledge of Religion with that of Science is a topical
>> subject.  Posts on this forum try to do it.
>>
>
> Yes, I received your previous post and reviewed the Maya page you
> referenced.  Here is a seminal quote from Dobson's essay:
>
> "Swami Vivekananda said in one of his lectures that the Universe is the
> Absolute seen through the screen of time, space, and causation (kala, desha,
> nimitta).  He said that time, space, and causation are like the glass
> through which the Absolute is seen, and when It is seen on the lower side,
> It appears as the Universe.  So not only is the Universe apparitional, it's
> the Absolute seen through time and space, and that allows us to understand
> why the physics of the Universe takes the form that we see."
>
> It appears that the Swami had equated the ("apparitional"?) Universe with
> Reality prior to
> analyzing its relational principles, which is the basis for my skepticism.
> Nonetheless, it's at least conceivable that establishing logical equivalents
> can help clarify some of the concepts posited for the MoQ as well as for
> Essentialism.  If so, it may be worth pursuing toward that end alone.
>
> So, Mark, you've got a reluctant 'critiquer' to monitor the metaphysical
> side, and (if Ron is amenable, as I anticipate he will be) a symbolic
> wordsmith as coach for the logic side.  It's up to you to decide what
> postulates are worth formulating as equations (constants?) and what
> conclusions you feel can be drawn from the results.  Please keep me informed
> on your progress and any difficulties you encounter along the way.
>
> Cheers and good luck with this project!
>
> --Ham
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