[MD] What's Emptiness?

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Oct 18 02:46:31 PDT 2010


Adrie,

Thank you for the nice thoughts.  
 
Strange that at this time I can only throw words away:
not this, not that, not that either.  The leftover words are 
a lump in my throat.
  
 
Marsha 




On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:09 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:

> Sorry to hear it , Marsha,....,he will stay part of all possible history's,
> and never leave your rememberance.
> 
> 2010/10/18 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> 
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> 
>> Things arise, exist and fad away.  Depending,,, possibly to be repeated
>> another day.  Or not.
>> 
>> -------------
>> 
>> My stepfather died.  He was a good man.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:59 PM, John Carl wrote:
>> 
>>> Well Tsong-kha-pa certainly got it right, Marsha.  Things do arise and
>> they
>>> come into existence and they affect one another.
>>> 
>>> I agree completely.
>>> 
>>> Johnny come lately
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:26 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Oh right, Emptiness...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "For Tsong-kha-pa, the compatibility of emptiness and dependent arising
>>>> is the very heart of the Madhyamaka view and the key to the path.
>> Dependent
>>>> arising means that things come into being in dependence upon causes and
>>>> conditions.  Understanding dependent arising correctly refutes the idea
>> that
>>>> things exist in of themselves---because they must depend on other
>> things.
>>>> In the same moment, it also refutes the nihilist extreme---because it
>> show
>>>> that things do arise, they do come into existence, and they affect one
>>>> another.  Thus, Tsong-kha-pa advises that if you think that you may have
>>>> found the profound view of emptiness, you should check to see if you
>> have
>>>> negated too much.  Can this "emptiness" you have discovered be
>> reconciled
>>>> with the mere existence of things that arise interdependently? If not,
>> then
>>>> you are certainly mistaken."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And I love a Cabaret!!!!!!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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