[MD] Step One

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:29 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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> On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Dan Glover wrote:
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>> Hello everyone
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>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:26 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Dan Glover wrote:
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>>>> Dan:
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>>>> The intellectual level is just thinking, plain and simple. You know that, John.
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>>> Aren't all patterns conceptually constructed?  Wouldn't that make all levels "just thinking?"
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>> Hi Marsha
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>> I would say that within the framework of the MOQ, inorganic and
>> biological patterns are physical. We can touch them, examine them.
>> Social and intellectual patterns are mental... like the President of
>> the United States. There is no way to physically tell the President
>> apart from any other human being by examination. So to answer your
>> question, no, not all levels are "just thinking." In addition, there
>> seem to social patterns of value that are not intellectual, like
>> saying "Bless you" when someone sneezes. Those types of patterns are
>> ingrained in us to the extent that we really don't think about it.
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>> Dan
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> Dan,
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> If I think "Should I say "Bless you." to this guy." does that make it an
> intellectual static pattern of value or a social static pattern of value?

Dan:
Well, I was thinking more along the lines of an automatic response,
kind of like shaking someone's hand when it is extended. Or, I have on
occasion driven somewhere and upon arriving, I have no notion of
actually driving there. It was like I was on autopilot. Or maybe even
cooking my favorite soup recipe... I just know whart ingredients go
into the soup without any real thought.

I understand what you're saying... perhaps if we look at it this
way... if I think: should I say Bless You, then it is an intellectual
pattern. If I just say it, it is a social pattern. But most times the
two are so intertwined that it is quite complicated to separate.

Thoughts?

Dan

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