[MD] The Moral Landscape

[Platt Holden]

Hi Adrie,

I guess you don't believe in free speech. Neither did Stalin, Hitler, Mao
and all other
dictators. On gaining power, that's the first thing dictators insist on --
"Nyet" free speech.
Pirsig understood. Free speech is an intellectually-based individual right
against
the force of social conformity.

Platt


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:50 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Wilders is systematically stirring up controverse's between Islamic people
> and "White" people.
> Only as an example, he wants to legalise a system that denies elementary
> rights to native Dutchborn-islamists.
> Elementary rights like the right simply to be there, reunification of
> broken
> marriages for islamic people.
>
> wilders is deliberatly introducing a Theresienstadt-model based doctrine,
> trying to legalise it.
> He is one of the biggest criminals around here."legalised criminality",
> named common sence by him.
>
> I do not advokate islamic violence either, i totally dissaprove it.
>
> The biggest danger however, is people like you , platt, stirring up
> controverse's, polarising peoples attention to something that
> is deconstructive,...your own defaitisme.its lethal.
>
>
> 2010/10/19 <plattholden at gmail.com>
>
> > On 19 Oct 2010 at 17:26, Andre Broersen wrote:
> >
> >  Platt to Steve:
> >
> > Rather I think anyone who thinks they know better than
> > other people about spiritual matters is not only deceiving himself, but
> > poses a danger to others. Certainly history shows that to be the case.
> > What I know is that I know little. So I don't condemn an entire group
> > who, by their acts of charity, may have something of value to teach me.
> >
> > Andre:
> > Yet this is exactly what the Dutch politician Geert Wilders, appealing to
> > his right to freedom of speech, has done.(i.e. pretending to know better
> > than
> > other
> > people about spiritual matters (the practice and experience of the Islam
> > faith
> > is backward
> > [as in loony],and in this context, condemning an entire group professing
> > that
> > faith)
> >
> > Does that mean that you agree that Wilders, by appealing to his right to
> > freedom of speech in
> > making these statements, is posing a 'danger to others' and 'deceiving'
> > himself?
> >
> > Just wondering.
> >
> > Platt
> > Rather it's the Muslim ayatollahs who, in the name of Allah, promote
> > murder.
> > Perhaps you agree they pose a danger to others. As far as I know, Wilders
> > has
> > never advocated violence against those who disagree with him. Please
> > correct me
> > if you know otherwise.
> >
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