[MD] The Moral Landscape

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Tue Oct 19 23:50:15 PDT 2010


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Steven Peterson
<peterson.steve at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Platt,
>
> Platt to Mark:
> > I couldn't agree with you more. You have deftly revealed what's behind
> the
> > curtain of science's claim to "truth." What's true is what Pirsig
> observed:
> > "Science has no values. Not officially." Just as it is impossible for a
> > calculator to calculate itself, it's impossible for a discipline that has
> no
> > values to comprehend values.
>
> Steve:
> You missed the point as usual. In the bit you refer to here Pirsig
> tried to get science to recognize that it actually does have values
> not to argue that we ought to get rid of science or remind science to
> stay in its value-neutral place. Instead he wanted to expand the
> concept of rationality--a root expansion of reason--so it can deal
> with values and so values can be opened to rational inquiry. What you
> are arguing against is pretty much Pirsig's main philosophical project
> in his two books.
>

Mark:
What point?  Values create Science, Quality creates Truth.  What you are
suggesting is that science define values.  Again, you have got it backwards.
 And stop bringing in Pirsig for support.  You are responsible for your
ideas, take responsibility.


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