[MD] Step One

[John Carl]

I think you're overthinking a bit, Adrie.  Something I have a lot of
experience doing so I recognized it immediately.

(Adrie)
> Nope,engaging is not chiming in, and no, its not about Dan's critique on
> your style.
> Its about sneaking out on the presented subject, by deviating the
> conversation
> to the subject of Bo,on a moment in time badly chosen, and solely for the
> purpose
> of deviating to something you want to throw in, clearly to associate Dan
> with the
> Bo-subject.
>


Backtracking a bit, the challenge made originally was that I was hijacking
the MD, and refusing its terminology.  So I thought I oughta address that
challenge head-on, starting at the top of the MoQ - the intellect.
Reminding dan what a big issue this is, was not my "deviating" it was
expressly and patiently dealing with what issues were flung my way.  The
issue of terminology.  The dictionary definition proves Bo's point.

If it was "badly chosen" in matters of timing, I have no idea why.



> Its a mechanism, like the mentionings in your last what? 50 posts of
> Horse's
> name-,completely
> off context-off topic, and without filling in the field, pointing the other
> listers attention
> to think about Horse as cause of your trouble, cause off Bo's trouble.
>


"50" is of course, a complete exaggeration, but I'll allow exaggeration to
make your point that I do bring up the subject.  After all, on this forum,
is not Horse's whim the air that we breathe?  The background of all
discourse?  As an old sysop myself, I keep him in mind.  Since I keep him in
mind, he pops out in my words.



> Guiding the attention by association, suggestion and autosuggestion.
> You work the same way now , throwing in Mary's name, Marscha, Bo,
> Platt,...in the silent hope that
> they wil feel adressed and advocated on their behalfs, and hopefully will
> chime in to rescue you.
>

I'm a big boy.  I can rescue myself.  Or choose to drown.  Either way, who
cares.  Should I refrain from mentioning other people at all Adrie?



> Suggestion/autosuggestion.Trying to shelter in their armpits
>
> No?
>
> How many names are following after this? , in the following answers you
> gave?
> can you count?
>
> Same goes for the deviation on the issue here, you deviate to the question
> about
> individuals to be excluded, but this was not the issue,and mind this, i
> made
> no question
> what so ever to exclude Bo, nor he is booted out, like you are implying
> here, very suggestive.
>

I pointed out long before this, that Bo quit.  I obviously don't need to be
reminded.  But, Adrie, I think anybody would quit, if they had to deal with
unrelieved abuse and criticism day after day, and warnings from the
moderator.  So let's be clear that there is "ok, I retire from the arena as
requested" and "this just isn't fun for me anymore" and then there is
getting kicked out.  those are separate things, but they all come out the
same in the end.

Ask Phaedrus when they tried to ease him out the back door of the University
of Chicago, if there's any functional difference between the front and the
back.  In the end, he got booted.



> Tell me, doe you like to know my opinion, Horse his opinion, or do you like
> to shove Bo's
> opinion, or mary's or marsha's up my ass?, ...
> Or is there, in the fog out there , a better answer?...like this , this is
> not the current issue!
>

It seems fair, to pursue the opinions that one values, and to ignore the
opinions that one doesn't.  Not a very complicated procedure really.   It
gets tricky though, when one is told that one's opinions are not wanted, by
those whose opinion one values.  Time to go throw oneself off a cliff,
evidently.  Or just perhaps shut up for a while.

darn.  Just when it was getting interesting too.

Oh well,

John the lone exception.