[MD] October 19, 1999

[Dan Glover]

JC wrote:

Pardon me for jumping in so soon - I only joined this list today - but I
feel like I've been bottled up for a long time - having read ZMM in 1981
and bursting to discuss it ever since. I was so eager to get my hands on
Lila that I actaullly went and bought it hardcove. So
forgive any newbie ignornaance as I leap into the fray. Cheers to all and
glad to be here!

[snip]

Pirsig is unfair. He actually didn't invent any interesting new
philosophy which we can compare with our old philosophy. He offered us no
advancement in Philosophy. Instead he introduced a dead end to
philosophy - sort of tricky philosophical jiu-jitsu
that overthrows all philosophical positions held. For whether or not
any philosophy is "good" You can't judge "good" by anything else.


So what the heck do you guys usually talk about anyway?

Dan comments:

Hey JC! Good to have you aboard. Oh, we talk about all kinds of
stuff... you'll be amazed at how smart we are. What exactly do you
mean that Pirsig didn't invent any new philosophy? Are you saying that
the MOQ isn't philosophy? And if it is a dead end, why are we
bothering ourselves with it?

Anyway, just a few questions to get the discussion rolling.

And again, good to have you aboard,

Dan