[MD] Step One

[MarshaV]

Hi Mark,




On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, 118 wrote:

> [Dan previously]
> I can agree with you that when all is said and done, 'not this, not that'
> rules.
> 
> [Marsh in response]
> It is none of these things, not this, not that..
> 
> [Mark carefully interrupting]
> 
> Hi  Marsha,
> 
> 
> 
> I think you are being misleading by saying it is none of these things.  In
> my opinion it is all of these things as proposed by not this, not that.  In
> that way I agree with Dan.  

That was not Dan previously, but Marsha previously and I wished to 
re-emphasis my statement.


> It is easy for one to muddy the waters when one
> brings in an Eastern philosophy that we do not have a full appreciation of.

I'm certainly not the only person who has investigated Eastern philosophy,
and there is such thing as a question or google search.


> If the intent is to harmonize MOQ with such then, not this, not that has to
> be used in a constructive fashion.  By saying it is not this, not that, you
> are conveying a description, not denying one.

I'm not sure of your objection.  Why do you agree with my first statement and 
not my second?   


> It is not useful to use such a statement as a conclusion, it is a positive
> quality which has its own properties open for discussion.  

If you mean "It is none of these things" please explain why you think it 
was not useful.  It was a remark made to Dan.  I'm sorry do not approve.  
I have read 'neti-neti' explained many different ways.  Maybe you have 
exact set of words you'd like to recommend.  Let's hear them.   


> The goal would be to add words to describe such properties.  I know it's
> difficult, but use different words so the rest of us can understand what
> you are proposing.

I am saying these words do not represent the UltimateTruth/Quality.  I thought 
Dan might understand after all his Zen sitting.  And don't ask me to explain 
what is beyond words.    I will only dance away...   


Marsha






 
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