[MD] Step One

[MarshaV]

dmb,
  
I use my intellect all the time. I like to.  It's fun.  So what?   

For me the MoQ designates Reality = Quality.  Quality, for me, is experienced as unpatterned and patterned.     -     All the "talking" about the MoQ and Quality are a second-hand intellectualizing and NOT the first-hand knowing/experience of either.  What's not to get?  You want to think meditation is clap-trap, then don't excited with me that you do not understand.   You are really funny.   Here try this:

Not this
Not -this
Not (this and -this)

Not (neither this nor -this)


Marsha 







On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:09 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> You still don't see why your equation doesn't add up? You still don't see the problem with your reasoning? I thought I'd made it impossible to miss, even for you. And what I did was neither a hissy-fit nor was it merely insulting. It was a step-by-step explanation and, as usual, you have responded with a childish evasion.
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> Go ahead, Marsha explain your reasoning. If philosophy is a particular kind of intellectual quality and SOM is a particular kind of philosophy, then how can the whole intellectual level be defined as "a formalized subject/object level (SOM)"? 
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> How can one part of a subsection define the whole thing? That's like defining "food" as one of the cherries in one slice of one pie. 
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> And what really kills me is the fact that anybody ever asked in the first place. Intellect is what you're using to ask the question. It's just the ability to skillfully handle concepts, abstractions, generalizations and the like. Intellectual patterns are the products of that skill. What's not to understand? Intellect is what we use here everyday. It's what you use to read and interpret the books we're here to discuss. It's just thinking. Marsha's definition is too complicated by about 2000%.
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> That's a criticism of your position, Marsha, not mere insult. Yes, I characterized your reasoning as "spectacularly bad" and "spectacularly stupid" but I broke it down into steps, used an analogy and otherwise explained exactly what the problem is with that reasoning. A child could have understood that explanation but you've simply ignored the actual substance of it. As usual, your response fits the same old pattern. Insult and evade, insult and evade. There is simply no reasoning with you, is there? You are literally unreasonable. Things like logic and evidence mean absolutely nothing to you, do they? I just don't understand how you can cling to such a conspicuously contradictory construction without embarrassment. 
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> Level 4 includes patterns like a, b, c, and d.
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> Level 4 is defined as the patterns that dominated the Western part of d in recent historic times?
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> C'mon. Anyone can see how spectacularly bad that reasoning is, right? It's not just me, right? Isn't is conspicuously wrong? The problem with it is very clear, no? 
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