[MD] Tea Bagging

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Hi Horse,
No, really, not intentionally I hope!  These politicians are here to ride in
on their shining horses and save us.  What other purpose could they have in
mind.  The internet is a great source for lies, just take a look at
Wikipedia.

Mark

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:

>  Hi Mark
> Have you never heard of the wolf in sheep's clothing or that politicians
> (and certain folk around here) tell lies?
>
> Horse
>
> On 23/10/2010 06:01, 118 wrote:
>
>> Hi Horse,
>> Now, I am not a historian but I have read a few books, The Rise and the
>> Fall
>> of the Third Reich being one of them.  My father lived through the war in
>> Holland and I have had many discussions with him.   In my opinion Platt is
>> correct in saying that the Nazi party (NSP) started as a socialist party.
>>  It named itself the German Worker's Party, which has obvious socialist
>> overtones.  The party came to power due to a depression.  The NSP promised
>> the middle class it would fix all the problems (never said how).  The NSP
>> had an extensive welfare system (also a socialist premise), which gave
>> them
>> more power.  Living conditions for the masses improved under the NSP.
>>
>> Fascism can have benign connotations if we separate it from the war
>> atrocities. In fact Italian fascism was quite popular, and Mussolini was a
>> socialist journalist.  The economic model is that all production is in the
>> control of the government, or very large corporations (socialist).
>>
>> Hegel followers and others were looking for an alternative to common
>> socialism with many of the same attributes.  They thought fascism it would
>> result in harmony between social classes (also a socialist ideal).  It was
>> a
>> top down approach, which is also socialist.    All of these words now have
>> different meanings due to the ghastly war, but these Germans and Italians
>> were not stupid, they were indeed looking for a better society.
>>
>> But unfortunately (and I will end with a poem by Robert Burns):
>>
>> The best laid schemes of mice and men
>> Go often askew.
>> And leave us nothing but grief and pain,
>> For promised joy!
>>
>> Be skeptical of the intellect...
>>
>> It's all on the Internet
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
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