[MD] Step One

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Sat Oct 23 13:10:52 PDT 2010


On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>wrote:

> Mark to Andre:
>
>  Sorry if my command of grammar is not up to snuff.  I wouldn't get into a
> grammar debate if I were you.  Yes, it did just come up, you brought it up.
>  I was discussing it, you do not have to discuss it if you care not to, I
> understand.  So, how is flux stable?
>
> Andre:
> Nothing wrong with your grammar Mark. The 'flux' I meant to designate is
> better understood as 'vibrating'. If it is fixed it cannot change. Stability
> does not mean 'fixed'. It means stably vibrating...until something better
> comes along.
>

[Mark]
Yea, I like vibrating.  It can created harmonics like the levels, I agree
with that.  String theory is useful, but there are way too many dimensions
for me.  Seems a bit suspect.

>
> Mark:
> Good quote, perhaps the grammar is not very leading there...  Yes,
> Qualityis THE event if you want to put it that way.  The term event has many
> philosophical synonyms.  My opinion is that you are not using it in the
> right way.  I would prefer the term wedstrijd to gebeurtenis.
>
> Andre:
> A very good observation, and I have thought long and hard to describe the
> 'event' and concluded that the Dutch rendition of the word 'event' in the
> way that the MOQ requires it is not 'gebeurtenis' but 'beleving'. This seems
> to me more direct and a truer representation. (You may disagree)
>

[Mark]
Believing is good, I prefer playing like in the vedic lila.

>
> Mark:
> How would you define patterns of value?  Just asking so that I can converse
> with you.
>
> Andre:
> Well, I thought we are already conversing so there must be some value
> recognized (without wanting to be a smart-arse)
> Patterns of value are what they point to: abstractions of Quality based on
> valuations, on what is best, on what 'feels' right, on what can help us
> improve, on what is beauty, on what brings us closer into harmony with all,
> on what is desperately crying out for recognition.
>
> They are valuations, and not just personal ones (otherwise they would not
> be included...for the time being...). These are valuations shared by all of
> us. As much 'inner' as 'outer' making up our cultural heritage and universal
> origins.
>

[Mark]
OK, this gives me a basis to go on.  I'll try to get this old brain into
gear.

Best,
Mark

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