[MD] Step One

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Hey Andrie,
Wish I could take credit, but had to ask my Dad.
Mark

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:54 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>wrote:

> woeha!, Andre" this was a program brought to you by......"
> WOEHA!
>
> Strange that Mark's Dutch apparently is still sharp enough for
> 'gebeurtenis'
> als event,probably he is still having the look and feel in his fingers.
> stunning quality in your postings , Andre,--quality-driven?
>
> 2010/10/23 Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>
>
> > Marsha to Mark:
> >
> >
> > The Intellectual Level, the fourth level, is comprised of static patterns
> > of value such as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way
> that
> > these patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their
> > rational analysis and manipulation.  Reification decontextualizes.
> >  Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework
> > creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a
> > ?thing? or an ?object of analysis.?  The fourth level is a formalized
> > subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational,
> > objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity
> like
> > emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study
> and
> > research in an unbiased and rational manner.
> >
> > Andre:
> > This was a program brought to you by valky-Rat.com, (sponsored by a
> > Scandinavian soap producer) who is apparently still unaware of what
> William
> > James wrote more than 142 years ago. She doesn't like James, she doesn't
> > like radical empiricism but still, these were the days before James had
> > fully worked out his ideas, not based on the armchair bouncing idea
> against
> > idea. No. He bounced ideas against his own, his student's and colleague's
> > and other's experiences as they were related to him directly, through
> > letters, anecdotes or his own scientific investigations in the lab.
> >
> > Just a apropos: the MOQ subscribes to pragmatism and radical empiricism.
> >
> > James called his paper:'The Sentiment of Rationality' in which he
> proposes
> > an exploration of the action of consciousness. Please remember that
> > 'consciousness' is designated in the MOQ as 'intellectual patterns'... as
> > the 'collection and manipulation of symbols created in the brain that
> stand
> > for patterns of experience' (Annotn 32). The intellectual level therefore
> > indicates 'action'.
> >
> > James argues that 'rationality is at bottom a feeling' ( keep in mind
> > Phaedrus' pre-intellectual romantic fused with classical reflection bit).
> > Also remember that James was at the beginning of trying to formulate this
> > dawning awareness. He says:
> > [rationality] ' Not a matter of logic or math, not reasoning or ratios,
> not
> > induction, deduction, or syllogism, not something higher than and
> detached
> > from the senses, not the opposite of a feeling or emotion -rationality
> > itself is a feeling or emotion'. (William James. In the Maelstrom of
> > American Modernism, Robert D. Richardson, p184)
> >
> > But, of course it is not just pure biology. The MOQ adds a sense of
> > intellectual quality, an aesthetic appreciation of beauty, the
> recognition
> > of the affective role (pre-intellectual) part. James shows his
> sensitivity
> > and brilliance in this paper through relating his experience (and not
> seeing
> > it as purely personal but recognizing it) as a universal attribute of
> > humanity.
> >
> > What this oft repeated valky-Rat program leaves us with is that the
> > intellectual level is not capable of recognizing elegance, harmony,
> beauty.
> > It is not capable of recognizing values, morality, quality.
> >
> > This is SOM propaganda. We are not talking SOM! We are talking MOQ.
> >
> > It appears to me that this program is hopelessly out of date by at least
> > some 150 years...event hough Heraclitus had a pretty good 'feel' of
> things
> > as well when he suggested that you cannot step into the same river twice.
> > This program reifies the river, it reifies experience, it reifies DQ into
> > sq. This program is indeed out of date through the ignorance of its own
> > invention which is based on nothing.
> >
> > Alas. Keep on meditating...OhhhMmmmmmmm.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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