[MD] The Moral Landscape

[Ian]

And you are an arrogant areshole dmb for suggesting you understand the  
enormity more than others.

I'm not "above" anything. Just choosing where to put my efforts. (As I  
said, but that counts for sod all.)

Ian

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On 25 Oct 2010, at 20:57, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Pirsig said:
> "...a culture that supports the dominance of intellectual values  
> over social values is absolutely superior to one that does  
> not." (Lila, p.311)
>
> "From a static point of view, socialism is more moral than  
> capitalism. It's a higher form of evolution. It is an intellectually  
> guided society,  not just a society that is guided by mindless  
> traditions."
>
> "It is not that Victorian social economic patterns are more moral  
> than socialist intellectual economic patterns. Quite the opposite.  
> They are less moral as static patterns go."
> Ian said:
>
> ...If we established some working understanding of left I could  
> easily agree with you, but in the cartoon world of mass media,  
> they're as low quality as each other. And whilst MOQ wallows in the  
> same mire as populist politics count me out. Personal choice, not a  
> criticism of yourself and Arlo say, if you wanna fight that battle,  
> but there are bigger fish to fry for me. The quality of argument  
> itself. Each to his own.
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> But Pirsig DOES establish some working understanding of the left.  
> That's what the Lila quotes refer to, obviously. And I'm quoting  
> scientific research in support of Pirsig's analysis of the right,  
> NOT the cartoon world of mass media. You're pretending that both  
> sides are equal and that you're above the fray. But I think you just  
> don't realize the enormity of what's at stake nor the profound  
> differences between social and intellectual values.
>
> Nor the difference between creationism and cosmology, apparently.
>
> What indiscriminating, insensitive, tone-deaf, luke-warm drivel. The  
> great equivocator strikes again!
>
>
> Thank you very little,
> dmb
>
>
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