[MD] BeTteR-neSs (undefined or otherwise)

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Sun Oct 31 04:55:55 PDT 2010





Ham:
Now, if betterness (Goodness) is relative, it has to be relative to the observer 
who realizes it.  If there is no observer ('self' or 'agent') there is no moral 
value realized.  Then again, if the universe is totally moral (as Pirsig 
suggests), there is no NEED to realize it.  Instead, mankind automatically 
yields to the universal principal.  Yes, this is "determinism"; and I happen to 
believe, along with the Founders of our free republic, that man is endowed by 
his Creator with Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. What is Liberty if 
not Freedom?  How is man a free creature if his moral behavior is determined by 
Natural Law instead of by his own value-sensibility?

Ron:
IF the natural law is value sensibility, there is no conrtadiction is there?


      



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