[MD] Able to change well.

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Fri Sep 3 05:58:03 PDT 2010


Trouble is Bodvars SOL did'nt recognize it as a western cultural development
it was asserted as the evolutional development of the human race.


 


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Subject: Re: [MD] Able to change well.

While thinking about Ability to change well, and the static and dynamic 
functions, i suddenly asked, Is the moq Archetypal?


This immediately highlighted the antimonies of classic, romantic, static, 
dynamic.


Jung thinks a division between the psychic realm and that of pure emotion lead 
to intellectual development.
And this reminded me of Bodvar Skutvik's SOL.


Once humans began to regard people as either material, psychic or spiritual, the 
psychic and spiritual viewed matter as an opposite.
This division is the basis of our cultural development it would seem.


If you truly believe that Quality invented this division, then it is 
understandable why Bodvar regards it as Quality's intellect.
This is reinforced by a diagram in Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance 
which does not further subdivide the romantic, for that experience is a unity of 
emotions.


Yes, emotions change, but that observation is reflective.


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The moq employs different antimonies. These are closer to the material, psychic 
and spiritual.
(Jung thinks that psychic is an indeterminate centre between material and 
spiritual, at least at this very early stage).
This reminds me of Maxwell's sweet spot or Dynamic coherence idea.
And so this is Archetypal too.


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Quality and Dynamic Quality are antimonies in this sense: Quality is a source 
and Dynamic Quality is a teleology.
They are intellectual discriminations derived from past, future, while reserving 
an insistence that Quality is a unity of immediate experience.


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It seems to me that Jung ties all this together quite well.
But i am not expecting universal agreement.


One more note, in Subjects, Objects, Data and Values, the four static levels are 
divided in the object and the subject.
This works well for extroverts, but introverts may be more inclined to view 
social patterns as alien.
And so for introverts, symbolic manipulation of the moq intellect is the only 
subject.
This view again supports Bodvar's assertions it seems to me.


Thank you
Ade
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