[MD] Intellectual Level
X Acto
xacto at rocketmail.com
Sun Sep 12 04:30:08 PDT 2010
Ok I think I get it
You are appealing to a dynamic unpatterned intellect
but if all thinking, as you suggest when you say that
"reification is how the brain works" then there is no
escape from it.
transcendance is literally impossible.(while alive) or being coherent
in any kind of fashion.
because it would require one to cease
using the brain.
to then escape SOM we must revert to brainlessness.
But to assert this you must constantly contradict yourself intellectually.
the only way to a quality intellect is to stop using your brain become mindless
I'd say a good portion of the world is already on that track.
----- Original Message ----
From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 5:07:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual Level
Greetings,
Understanding that that the way we deal with experience is:
"... we 'seek and find, or project, a simplifying pattern to approximate every
complex field ... by lumping (ignoring some distinctions as negligible) and by
splitting (ignoring some relations as negligible). Both ... create discreet
entities useful for manipulating, predicting and controlling ... [but] may
impose ad hoc boundaries on what are actually densely interconnected systems and
then grant autonomous existence to the segments' (p. 108). Even the contents of
our own consciousness have to be dealt with in this way, resulting in our array
of fragmented self-concepts, and we just put up with the anomalies that arise.
Buddhism, he explains, agrees that discovering entities is conventionally
indispensable, but attachment and aggression arise through reifying them, which
violates the principle that all things are interdependent, and all entities are
conditional approximations."
My understanding of the Intellectual Level as SOM is:
While the MoQ represents Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience.)
Intellectual Static Patterns of Value (experiences) are reified concepts and the
rules for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns
process from a subject/object conceptual framework creating false boundaries
that give the illusion of independence as a “thing” or an “object of analysis.”
The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount
demand is for rational, objective knowledge, which is free from the corruption
of any subjectivity.
Marsha
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