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[MarshaV]

More than one set of truths exist:   
 

“…if Quality or excellence is seen as the ultimate reality then it becomes possible for more than one set of truths to exist. Then one doesn't seek the absolute Truth.' One seeks instead the highest quality intellectual explanation of things with the knowledge that if the past is any guide to the future this explanation must be taken provisionally; as useful until something better comes along. One can then examine intellectual realities the same way one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with an effort to find out which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that are of value. There are many sets of intellectual reality in existence and we can perceive some to have more quality than others, but that we do so is, in part, the result of our history and current patterns of values."

  (LILA, Chapter 8




On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:45 PM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> Within the MoQ, truth is relative:
> 
> Anthony writes:
> “Intellectual values include truth, justice, freedom, democracy and,
> trial by jury. It’s worth noting that the MOQ follows a pragmatic
> notion of truth so truth is seen as relative in his system while
> Quality is seen as absolute.  In consequence, the truth is defined
> as the highest quality intellectual explanation at a given time.
> 
> RMP:
> If the past is any guide to the future this explanation must be taken
> provisionally; as useful until something better comes along. One can
> then examine intellectual realities the same way he examines paintings
> in an art gallery, not with an effort to find out which one is the ‘real’
> painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that are of value. There are
> many sets of intellectual reality in existence and we can perceive some
> to have more quality than others, but that we do so is, in part, the result
> of our history and current patterns of values. (Pirsig, 1991, p.103)”
> 
>     (McWatt,Anthony,MOQ Textbook)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2010, at 2:37 PM, MarshaV wrote:
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>> 
>> There is not one man who does all the measuring.    
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>> 
>> "Who is right? Is there more than one meaning of the word 'around'? That's a surprise! That's like discovering more than one true system of geometry. How many meanings are there and which one is right?
>> 
>> It seems as though the squirrel is using the term 'around' in a way that is relative to itself but the man is using it in a way that is relative to an absolute point in space outside of the squirrel and himself. But if we dop the squirrel's relative point of view and we take the absolute fixed point of view, what are we letting ourselves in for? From a fixed point in space every human being on this planet goes around every other human being to the east or west of him once a day. The whole East River does a half-cartwheel over the Hudson each morning and another one under it each evening. Is this what we want to mean by 'around'? If so, how useful is it? And if the squirrel's relative point of view is false, how useless is it?
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>> What emerges is that the word 'around,' which seems like one of the most clear and absolute and fixed terms in the universe suddenly turns out to be relative and subjective. What is 'around' depends on who you are and what you're thinking about at the time you use it. The more you tug at it the more things start to unravel. One such philosophic tugger was Albert Einstein, who concluded that all time and space are relative to the observer.
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>> We are always in the position of that squirrel. Man is always the measure of all things, even in matters of space and dimension. Persons like James and Einstein, immersed in the spirit of philosophy, do not see things like squirrels circling trees as necessarily trivial, because solving puzzles like that are what they're in philosophy and science for. Real science and real philosophy are not guided by preconceptions of what subjects are important to consider."
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>>   (LILA,Chapter 26)   
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