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[MarshaV]

On Sep 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, david buchanan wrote:

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> Marsha quoted Pirsig:
> "Any philosophic explanation of Quality is going to be both false and true precisely because it is a philosophic explanation. The process of philosophic explanation is an analytic process, a process of breaking something down into subjects and predicates. What I mean (and everybody else means) by the word quality cannot be broken down into subjects and predicates. This is not because Quality is so mysterious but because Quality is so simple, immediate and direct." (ZMM, Chapter 20)
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> dmb:
> Not that Marsha is going to hear it, but this quote cannot be applied to the metaphysics of quality or any other philosophical explanation. He's talking about the difference between direct experience and the analytic process, between dynamic and static quality. This here place is a philosophical discussion group where you need words, ideas and keyboards. Simple, immediate and direct experience is not a metaphysical system. The MOQ is. The MOQ in no way prohibits the discussion of the MOQ or any other philosophy. It says that DQ is pre-intellectual and outside language but philosophy is not outside those things. 


Marsha:
My understanding falls differently.  And I do not believe that you really understand the MoQ.  You have your point-of-view, but I think it is rather shallow.   



> dmb:
> By the way, my accounting says this was Marsha's 27th post of the day - so far. Let's add "manic" and "obnoxious" to the list of names, shall we?


Marsha:
Nice. Well done. That's exactly the kind of careful, responsible, non-evasive reply I was asking for. You've defended your statements with wit and skill, as always.  That's pure genius. Very respectable. Wish I'd thought of that.  


 
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