[MD] Unlike Marsha's post, this really is OFF LIST

Mon Sep 13 03:16:01 PDT 2010

Marsha, John, I hate to be the one defending dmb but offlist traffic  
is good, when the subject matter is personal, for anyone concerned  
with positive progress over damaging individuals.

Bad news in private, good news in public is my own working adage, and  
offlist mail is not unusual for you either Marsha, which is the only  
reason you were mentioned ?

DMB's style is dmb's style, on or offlist. Like his style or not, he's  
consistent.
Ian
Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Sep 2010, at 09:43, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
>
> Hi John,
>
> I can only wonder at what other kind of offlist conniving dmb uses to
> bully, shame and control the MD.  Head, hand and heart?  Right,
> but  not for dmb.  He's got a swollen head, a shrunken mind
> and no heart.  The MoQ is suppose to be a philosophy of head,
> heart and hand.  Ignore him.   He's small.
>
> Marsha
>
>
> p.s.  Since I do not speak negatively about people offlist, I feel I  
> need
> to forward this to the group.  Sorry John.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:12 AM, John Carl wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>>
>> I ordinarily don't comment much off list, as you know, but dmb sent  
>> me this and since he mentioned you by name, I figure I'd get your  
>> feedback.  In fact, it was your request for a story which generated  
>> the whole thing.
>>
>> And don't worry about me taking him (or you for that matter!)  too  
>> seriously.  I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.
>>
>> I did reply that I'd rather cease the off-list sniping.  If he has  
>> something to say, say it in public like a man.  That's all.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM
>> Subject: Unlike Marsha's post, this really is OFF LIST
>> To: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to be cold, but maybe you ought not use the MD as  
>> place for personal confessions. Don't you have friends you can talk  
>> to about your personal problems? What did you expect to get by  
>> posting such a thing in an internet philosophy forum? And when did  
>> I ever pretend to understand you or comprehend you? You seemed be  
>> begging for encouragement and consolation and my reply was only  
>> half-assed on that score. But it's the begging that's pathetic, not  
>> my half-hearted sympathy. If we were friends, you'd be right to  
>> feel disappointed. But we're not. You should be glad that nobody  
>> used that post to paint you as a white-trash loser, which it  
>> practically did all by itself.
>>
>>
>> Yea, my sad understanding is funny as hell. Glad my pathetic  
>> naivete could give you and Lu a good laugh, something to smile  
>> broadly about, something to roll your eyes to and something to  
>> literally laugh out loud over.
>>
>>
>> Me thinks thou doest protest too much, in fact quite hysterically  
>> and redundantly.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:32:18 -0700
>>> From: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>> Subject: Re: [MD] Where I'm at
>>>
>>> Thanks for the ah... encouragement(?) dave, don't worry your  
>>> pretty lil
>>> head. Problems always look smaller in the rear-view mirror and  
>>> fading fast
>>> behind. I'm for the road.
>>>
>>> Although it's funny as hell watching you try and encapsulate my  
>>> solutions,
>>> obviate my choices and replace them mentally with your own. Do it  
>>> some
>>> more! I can always use a good laugh.
>>>
>>> I gotta point this one out to Lu. "go down to the bank with a suit  
>>> and
>>> tie". I'm am really, truly, literally laughing out loud.
>>>
>>> And she's smiling broadly and rolling her eyes at your naivete.  
>>> It's sad
>>> how pathetically you understand anything about me, and even sadder  
>>> that you
>>> can't even comprehend me when I tell you.
>>>
>>> good for a laugh tho, like I said.
>>>
>>> hang in there, lil buddy.
>>>
>>> Watch for the signs.
>>>
>>> big bad mother-trucker John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> dmb says:
>>>>
>>>> Limbo? I believe the term is "under water". If you hold a  
>>>> mortgage (latin
>>>> for 'death grip") on a condemned property, then even "under  
>>>> water" is a bit
>>>> of a euphemism. How about "threshold to hell"? Sorry, don't mean  
>>>> to kick a
>>>> guy when he's down but it sounds like you gotta get real handy,  
>>>> handyman. I
>>>> bet you can do it. Think what a great story it'll make in ten  
>>>> years, how you
>>>> saved the ranch and won back your gal. This is your chance to be  
>>>> the hero of
>>>> your own story.
>>>> It might be worth looking into the programs Obama has set up that  
>>>> Chase
>>>> doesn't want you to know about and if you know any lawyers, etc.  
>>>> Some
>>>> literal compliance will be part of the fight to get the red tag  
>>>> removed,
>>>> don't let pride tell you otherwise. If it means hauling a  
>>>> moldering bus out
>>>> of there, just do it. On your mark. Get the contents of your  
>>>> septic tank
>>>> straightened out. Set some goat loose on that grass. Go down to  
>>>> the bank in
>>>> a suit and tie. You can do it. After you've jumped all those  
>>>> hurdles you can
>>>> dance under a stick. You know, the good kind of limbo, where you  
>>>> gotta be
>>>> limber and there's usually icy cocktails involved.
>>>>
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