[MD] Okay then, this is not OFF LIST

[John Carl]

dave,

Elsewhere I did admit that you probably wanted to spare me the embarrassment
and so I grant you the right sentiment, even through the totality of your
whole misunderstanding.

 Embarrassment?  Moi?  I ain't ashamed of who I am, dave.  Don't do your
projecting all over me and my moldering school bus.

I yam who I yam.


Out here, in the fields.
I farm for my meals.
I put my back into my living.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right.
I don't need to be forgiven.

Pete Townsend













On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:47 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

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>
>
> John said to dave:
> really, you're too kind with all this laughable sentiment you present to
> me.  But you needn't bother.   You're a busy guy and I'm sure you've got
> more important items on your agenda than setting me straight.
>
> You don't need to keep repeating yourself.    I understand perfectly that
> you detect little in me beyond white trash loser, and as far as I'm
> concerned, that's your loss.  Not mine.
>
> desist in the off-list chatter, please.  If you have something to say, say
> it "in public."  Be a man, dave.  None of this whispering behind hands.  I'm
> not interested.
>
> jc, the white trash loser
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> You think it would be more manly of me to comment on your personal problems
> "in public"?
>
> I don't get that. The idea was to spare you any unnecessary embarrassment.
> But if you'd rather give all the MOQers and lurkers and future archive
> browsers, that's fine with me. In asking for that, I think you're foolishly
> exposing yourself to ridicule. I think you would have to have a pretty weak
> sense of personal boundaries and a warped sense of what's intimate and
> what's public but whatever. It's your moldering school bus, not mine.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:03 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
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> I don't mean to be cold, but maybe you ought not use the MD as place for
> personal confessions. Don't you have friends you can talk to about your
> personal problems? What did you expect to get by posting such a thing in an
> internet philosophy forum? And when did I ever pretend to understand you or
> comprehend you? You seemed be begging for encouragement and consolation and
> my reply was only half-assed on that score. But it's the begging that's
> pathetic, not my half-hearted sympathy. If we were friends, you'd be right
> to feel disappointed. But we're not. You should be glad that nobody used
> that post to paint you as a white-trash loser, which it practically did all
> by itself.
>
>
> Yea, my sad understanding is funny as hell. Glad my pathetic naivete could
> give you and Lu a good laugh, something to smile broadly about, something to
> roll your eyes to and something to literally laugh out loud over.
>
>
> Me thinks thou doest protest too much, in fact quite hysterically and
> redundantly.
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:32:18 -0700
> > From: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
>
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Where I'm at
> >
> > Thanks for the ah... encouragement(?)  dave,  don't worry your pretty lil
>
> > head.  Problems always look smaller in the rear-view mirror and fading
> fast
> > behind.  I'm for the road.
> >
> > Although it's funny as hell watching you try and encapsulate my
> solutions,
> > obviate my choices and replace them mentally with your own.  Do it some
>
> > more!  I can always use a good laugh.
> >
> > I gotta point this one out to Lu.  "go down to the bank with a suit and
> > tie".  I'm am really, truly, literally laughing out loud.
> >
>
> > And she's smiling broadly and rolling her eyes at your naivete.  It's sad
> > how pathetically you understand anything about me, and even sadder that
> you
> > can't even comprehend me when I tell you.
>
> >
> > good for a laugh tho, like I said.
> >
> > hang in there, lil buddy.
> >
> > Watch for the signs.
> >
> > big bad mother-trucker John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > dmb says:
>
> > >
> > > Limbo? I believe the term is "under water". If you hold a mortgage
> (latin
> > > for 'death grip") on a condemned property, then even "under water" is a
> bit
> > > of a euphemism. How about "threshold to hell"? Sorry, don't mean to
> kick a
>
> > > guy when he's down but it sounds like you gotta get real handy,
> handyman. I
> > > bet you can do it. Think what a great story it'll make in ten years,
> how you
> > > saved the ranch and won back your gal. This is your chance to be the
> hero of
>
> > > your own story.
> > > It might be worth looking into the programs Obama has set up that Chase
> > > doesn't want you to know about and if you know any lawyers, etc. Some
> > > literal compliance will be part of the fight to get the red tag
> removed,
>
> > > don't let pride tell you otherwise. If it means hauling a moldering bus
> out
> > > of there, just do it. On your mark. Get the contents of your septic
> tank
> > > straightened out. Set some goat loose on that grass. Go down to the
> bank in
>
> > > a suit and tie. You can do it. After you've jumped all those hurdles
> you can
> > > dance under a stick. You know, the good kind of limbo, where you gotta
> be
> > > limber and there's usually icy cocktails involved.
>
> > >
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