[MD] Dynamic Quality as Beauty
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Tue Sep 14 08:02:46 PDT 2010
Hi Platt,
I've read some of Eco's work, non-fiction and fiction. I remember in
an undergraduate English class explaining to an instructor that I'd
like to write my paper on The Name of the Rose. I remember her
suggesting it had many levels of understanding and that I should
probably pick one: hubris for example. I had never heard of the
word before but agreedto take her suggestion. Wow! Was I mightily
embarrassed when I figured out the meaning and the implications of
her suggestion. Of course, what she suggested was both true and
false, and today I can laugh at being a fool. The journey is sometimes
painful.
I agree with you, I'd rather experience beauty than read about it.
Marsha
On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Platt Holden wrote:
> Hi Marsha,
>
> My daughter gave me the book for Christmas. It's pretty tough going, at
> least for me. I'd rather experience beauty than read about it. But the book
> with it's many illustrations is beautiful in itself, even without the prose.
> Even the review I referred to is too verbose for my liking, but I loved the
> last line: " 'Man is hungry for beauty. There is a void.' Nine words. Take a
> moment. Say them aloud. What else is there to be said?"
>
> I think when it comes right down to it, that's why we paint -- to fill the
> void.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Platt,
>>
>> I've always wanted to read 'The History of Beauty', but haven't yet.
>> Thanks for
>> pointing to the review. Also, just this morning, I listened again to
>> Chapter's 8 & 9
>> of Lila, so your quotes could be freshly related to the whole chapters.
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:10 AM, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> While reading a review of "The History of Beauty" by Umberto Eco, I came
>> across
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> " 'Beauty' seems suited to those experiences that stop us in our tracks."
>>>
>>> I immediately thought of:
>>>
>>> "He said, imagine that you walk down a street past, say, a car where
>> someone
>>> has the radio on and it plays a tune you've never heard before but which
>> is so
>>> fantastically good it just stops you in your tracks." (Lila, 9)
>>>
>>> A few sentences later, the reviewer describe beauty as framing a period
>> in time
>>> when . . .
>>>
>>> " . . . before the critical faculties kick in -- when we know there is
>>> something beyond the usual twaddle."
>>>
>>> Which brought to mind Pirsig's:
>>>
>>> "It connoted any phenomenon that transcended the run of everyday
>> experience."
>>> In other words, 'Dynamic Quality.' " (Lila, 9)
>>>
>>> The similarity between experiences of DQ and Beauty have been remarked on
>> a
>>> number of times by contributors here. So the similarity shown above is
>> hardly
>>> news. Still, I found the meeting of two disparate minds remarkable.and
>> worthy
>>> of note.
>>>
>>> The full review can be read at:
>>>
>>> http://www.powells.com/review/2010_09_10
>>>
>>> Platt
>>>
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