[MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?

[Platt Holden]

Magnus,

Let me see if I understand you. Are you saying that you disagree with the 
following from Pirsig:?

"It says that what is meant by "human rights" is usually the moral code of 
intellect vs.society, the moral right
of intellect to be free of social control. Freedom of speech, freedom of 
assembly, of travel, trial by jury, habeas
corpus, government by consent -- these "human rights" are all intellect 
vs.society issues. According to the
Metaphysics of Quality, these "human rights" have not just a sentimental 
basis, but a rational, metaphysical
basis. They are essential to the evolution of life from a lower level of 
life. They are for real." (Lila, 24)

Thanks for clarifying.

Platt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Magnus Berg" <McMagnus at home.se>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?


> On 2010-09-14 20:56, Platt Holden wrote:
>> If your stacks show all those things you claim, you might want to explain
>> how so. I don't see that the MOQ as contradicting itself or being abused 
>> by
>> anyone's ideas, so those seem to be straw men.
>
> Yeah right. So you've never before tried to raise the individual's right 
> to freedom above society's right to control it? You're not fooling 
> anybody. And the term "straw man", what a joke. Every time it is uttered, 
> it means the one saying it is striking the ostrich pose.
>
>
>> But, as pointed out a number
>> of times, no one here is obligated to answer anyone's questions. This is 
>> not
>> a teacher-student arena where failure to respond results in a low grade.
>
> Just connect the dots. When you focus on the individual's right to 
> freedom, or life, or whatever, you use the intellectual patterns of each 
> human's brain to claim intellectual supremacy over the social patterns of 
> the society in which that human is a part. But when you do that, you're 
> comparing apples and pear trees. (Note! "apples" vs "pear trees" not 
> "apple trees" vs "pear trees") Do you understand the difference?
>
> You can't use the MoQ to assert that one human's intellectual patterns are 
> more moral than a society's social patterns, because the society is 
> composed of *many* humans' intellectual patterns.
>
> Magnus