[MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?

[Frank Booth]

You are right. Maybe.  ( Some ) social patterns do not have morality as an 
attribute. The moral ones do. In fact, morality does.

I did not say that morality is derived from, but that morality is of the social. 
Is-ness.

On the other hand I cannot think of a single social pattern that does not tip 
it's hat to morality in some way or other.

My huggies are clean as a whistle.




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From: John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 6:36:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?

OOPs,  you're conflating again Frank.  better check your depends.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Frank Booth <frankbooth66 at yahoo.com> wrote:


> <F>
> WRONG!
>
> 1) Morality is a social pattern and therefore intellectual patterns cannot
> have
> morality as an attribute.
>

Social patterns don't have morality as an attribute either.  They are driven
by morality, they model upon it, but morality certainly isn't social.  I
assumed you'd read the books? Therein you'll find that the  universe as a
moral order is a high Quality idea.  Morality as derived from the social
order is how the Victorians viewed it.  We don't sing that song in these
parts.




>
> 2) Society is the sum total ( pattern ) of many individual social patterns.
>
> 3) Nevertheless ( in spite of [1] and [2] ), MOQ asserts that evolution is
> a
> moral process.
>
>
I don't like "in spite of".  in spite of's are nasty ans spiteful sounding.
They usually indicate a kludge.   Let's just stick with - Evolution is a
moral process.  Or rather, thee moral process.  Society is _a_ moral
process.



> And so on ...
>
>
>

Exactly.


John the moral process
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