[MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 16 Sep 2010 at 19:29, Magnus Berg wrote:

Hi

On 2010-09-16 14:13, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2010 at 11:20, Magnus Berg wrote:
>
> Hi Platt
>
> That was interesting. Wasn't you one the SOL people? Then we can remove
> you from that list. You seem to have a much broader view of the
> intellectual level than only S/O logic.
>
> [P]
> How so? Whether you think the intellectual level is SOL or something else, it
> still is morally superior to the social level.

I was commenting your view, not mine. And it was a bit off the topic at 
hand, still interesting.

> And you didn't answer my question: How does that work?
>
> The question was asking how society can treat humans as both morally
> superior and morally inferior at the same time. I say it can't, and that
> is why the original question those distinguished scientists ask is hard.
> Society has to weigh the higher and lower morality against each other
> and make a duhsicion. It can't use the clear rules of the MoQ, it
> becomes a compromise.
>
> [P]
> If Pirsig can't explain to you how that works by his own words, then I
> certainly can't. Pirsig has made it clear that the MOQ doesn't provide "clear
> rules" in deciding all moral questions but rather " . . .a large football field
> that gave meaning to the game by telling you who was on the 20-yard line but
> did not decide which team would win."

I'm not wondering how it works. I don't think Pirsig is right on target 
with this one, more of a mumble.

> I guess the MOQ is like your "stacks." Not everybody buys it or them.

You once said, (or quoted someone else) "Philosophy is about examining 
underlying assumptions". Stacks are such underlying assumptions. You 
switch between them, Pirsig does too, you just don't know it.


Hi Magnus:

If you want to take the time (and have the patience) to show the way Pirsig 
switches between underlying assumptions and how stacks reveal such assumptions 
and such switching, I'm all ears. Specific examples with quotes from Pirsig 
would  help. 

Platt