[MD] How far do you go to preserve individual life?

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Magnus]
Didn't you read my complete post? I compared that dependency which you defend,
with other, much more direct dependencies.

[Arlo]
My apologies. I am used to words meaning what they mean. A fish is dependent on
water, it may survive for a short while when taken out of water, but it will
eventually die. This is dependency. Just because it does not die IMMEDIATELY
does not make it less of dependency. 

[Magnus]
I'm sorry but you're simply stuck in old ways of thinking. It's *not* more
accurate to my analogy.

[Arlo]
It is, Magnus, and I'm sorry unable to see that.

Without the surround of sociality, intellect will never appear. When deprived
of sociality, intellect inevitably decays. This is dependency in every sense of
the word.

You can not remove a lower level from the MOQ and expect a higher level to
continue.